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Breaking: Justice says it will recommend President Trump veto FISA bill
The Hill ^ | 05/27/20 10:16 AM EDT | BY JORDAIN CARNEY

Posted on 05/27/2020 7:39:55 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: treetopsandroofs

Notice what the Hill wrote ...

“In his tweet, Trump referenced what he has cast as a conspiracy against his administration by the Obama administration.”

“What he has cast”... like only POTUS is making an accusation .... after all that came out ..., the Hill cannot even make a factual statement like “...government documents reveal that the obozo administration used FISA, perhaps illegally, to surveille the Trump 2016 campaign using documents paid for by HRC.”


21 posted on 05/27/2020 7:53:50 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: RandFan

Ah ... FReepers who only read the headlines vs FReepers that actually read the excerpt. More popcorn please.


22 posted on 05/27/2020 7:54:51 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

The media are horrible and dishonest.

They will not give credit for this.

Yet it’s the right thing to do. 100%!

I will give Trump credit.


23 posted on 05/27/2020 7:55:39 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

If we are to remain a free society...the deep state MUST BE exposed first before reauthorizing.


24 posted on 05/27/2020 7:56:00 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: JerseyDvl

Let’s talk about both.

Most people are capable of tracking more than one issue at a time. Most on FR are paying attention to dozens of issues.


25 posted on 05/27/2020 7:56:20 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: plain talk

The veto is coming and we’ll take it! :)


26 posted on 05/27/2020 7:56:55 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: Mariner

... Was a little sarcastic ... the sponsor was enough to veto was my point - not caring who wrote what ...


27 posted on 05/27/2020 7:57:29 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: RandFan

My reading of this is that the DOJ wants Trump to veto the FISA bill because it contains too many new safeguards.

In my opinion, FISA is beyond reform.

In the aftermath of 9/11, we granted the Federal government extraordinary surveillance powers, in the belief that those powers would be used exclusively to protect us from terrorism. Within a decade these powers were used for partisan political spying, and ultimately to sabotage the peaceful transfer of power to a new President.

This is the greatest abuse of power in the history of our Republic.

As distressing as the abuse of power is the reaction of our institutions to it. Instead of acknowledging the abuse and reacting quickly to punish all involved, the DOJ, the FBI, the Inspectors General, the media and the FISA court itself have all worked to delay revealing and excuse the government spying on its political enemies.

Those institutions can never again be trusted with the powers that FISA gave them.


28 posted on 05/27/2020 7:59:09 AM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: CaptainMorgantown

DOJ wants it veto’d.

Rand wants it veto’d

Three “key” provisions expire and go away.

Victory of sorts.


29 posted on 05/27/2020 8:01:06 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Indeed. Let’s see what GOP House and Senate members vote for this
awful bill.


30 posted on 05/27/2020 8:03:44 AM PDT by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: RandFan

I suspect some FReepers might side with the House if they knew the particulars. :-) Libertarians vs FBI. Even more popcorn please.


31 posted on 05/27/2020 8:06:23 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Mariner

If Trump is against it.
I’m against it.
That’s all I need to read.
Are you saying believe the article more than Trump?
I trust Trump. You should too.


32 posted on 05/27/2020 8:06:55 AM PDT by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: RandFan

“...They will not give credit for this.”

They won’t even acknowledge it happened, which is far worse in my book. At a minimum, media is required not only an apology for them to do so, but to no longer allow anyone who perpetrated the political fraud, lies and crimes to ever be treated with legitimacy. Of course they won’t.

By a Trump veto, it keeps the issue front and center. It will be difficult for them to report why, but they will work hard to make sure the sheeple do not know why.


33 posted on 05/27/2020 8:10:33 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: RandFan
👍👍👍👍
34 posted on 05/27/2020 8:12:19 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (2020 four more years!)
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To: tennmountainman

I will remain opposed even when POTUS one day signs the bill essentially intact.

“That’s all I need to read”.

Weird.


35 posted on 05/27/2020 8:12:32 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

“As distressing as the abuse of power is the reaction of our institutions to it. Instead of acknowledging the abuse and reacting quickly to punish all involved, the DOJ, the FBI, the Inspectors General, the media and the FISA court itself have all worked to delay revealing and excuse the government spying on its political enemies.

Those institutions can never again be trusted with the powers that FISA gave them.”

Exactly right. They need to earn the trust back, severe punishment of the criminals will be a step in that direction. Certain members of Congress resigning would also help.


36 posted on 05/27/2020 8:14:02 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: JerseyDvl

“Awesome...now lets shine a light on FISA abuse rather than talk about Joe Scarborough. Please.”

Trolls share your concern.


37 posted on 05/27/2020 8:23:59 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: 11th_VA

Not sure of the name, but it looks like he plays the bagpipes :)


38 posted on 05/27/2020 8:24:36 AM PDT by upchuck (Windows 10 is just a fancy spying machine with troublesome, mandatory updates.)
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To: RandFan

I keep thinking that I’m missing something. Doesn’t the article say that Justice doesn’t like it because it cracks down on them too much (by requiring warrants)?


39 posted on 05/27/2020 8:25:22 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Mariner

Trump is the biggest victim of this hoax.
If he is not happy with it for whatever his reason,
so am I. I would happy if they trashed the whole thing for good.


40 posted on 05/27/2020 8:25:30 AM PDT by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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