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Iranian Tankers To Reach Venezuela In Next 24 Hours Amid “Threat Of Imminent Military Force By US” (Sat Eve/Sun Morn)
USSA News ^ | 3-23-2020

Posted on 05/23/2020 3:11:06 PM PDT by blam

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To: sockmonkey

and you believe that?


61 posted on 05/24/2020 5:13:35 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: Alberta's Child

“ What exactly is the legal basis for the U.S. to intercept foreign vessels like this in international waters?”

Our sanctions against those nations, of which we have made the world very clear.


62 posted on 05/24/2020 5:24:15 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: jdsteel
The U.S. can impose sanctions against foreign countries at will. We've done that with both Iran and Venezuela. These sanctions apply to trade with the U.S.

The U.S. has no legal or moral right to use military means constrain trade among other nations that are not at war with the U.S.

63 posted on 05/24/2020 5:48:22 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Artemis Webb

You are correct

The gambit is a double feel good move that has negligible effect on Iran or Venezuela.

Venesuelans can’t eat gasoline


64 posted on 05/24/2020 5:56:05 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Alberta's Child

“ These sanctions apply to trade with the U.S.
The U.S. has no legal or moral right to use military means constrain trade among other nations that are not at war with the U.S.”

You are quite wrong.

Our existing sanctions on these countries extend to all nations. There is a series of US and international laws that combine to make such Sanctions legal.

Remember the Cuban Embargo? We let that go due to lack of will, but it is similar.


65 posted on 05/24/2020 7:20:53 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: jdsteel
You are factually incorrect on that. U.S. sanctions have no force of law outside U.S. jurisdiction.

I don’t know why you’d cite the Cuban embargo to support your point. It actually reinforces MY point. Even at the height of the embargo you could still buy Cuban cigars in Canada, and Air Canada made regular flights to Havana even when these flights were shut down to/from the U.S.

66 posted on 05/24/2020 7:42:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: RaceBannon
Do you believe Pompeo's version or this one re: US Sanctions on Venezuela?


67 posted on 05/24/2020 9:21:00 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: Alberta's Child

My thought exactly. I might don’t like Iran and Venezuela but since both don’t trade with US how is it ant of US business? Is it 17th century or an era of Punic wars?


68 posted on 05/24/2020 10:19:07 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: jdsteel

The Cuban embargo didn’t stop USSR, Poland and East German trade with Cuba.

Any country is within its rights to put sanctions on other country. To extent sanctions on trade by allies with a targeted country is an empire.

To extend sanctions on trade by non-aligned countries is piracy.


69 posted on 05/24/2020 10:23:11 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: jdsteel

SEAL boarding party. But the Iranians probably have them wired for demo.


70 posted on 05/24/2020 12:09:10 PM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!))
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

My Opinion, the tankers have missiles that can reach the SE US.


71 posted on 05/24/2020 1:16:17 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: stuckincali

anyway did we stop them?


72 posted on 05/24/2020 1:16:37 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

*** Underlying question for socialists...Why are the tankers needed to supply oil-rich Venezuela? ***

You may not like the source, but it explains simply why Venezuela needs help from countries not allied with the US’ Sanctions.

https://english.iswnews.com/13518/why-the-oil-rich-country-of-venezuela-gets-gasoline-from-iran/


73 posted on 05/24/2020 1:58:21 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: stuckincali
I was wondering too.

Here's what I found.

First of 5 Iranian Gas Tankers Reaches Venezuela With No Sign of U.S. Interference

74 posted on 05/24/2020 3:03:47 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Still travelling parallel to the coast heading towards port. Telesur has a reporter on one of the escorting helicopters.


75 posted on 05/24/2020 3:16:21 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: stuckincali; blam

Minute by minute coverage.

https://mobile.twitter.com/teleSURtv


76 posted on 05/24/2020 3:18:50 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: hanamizu

gasoline-starved Venezuela


Because of the wording, we assume these tankers contain gasoline, isn’t more likely they contain crude?


77 posted on 05/24/2020 3:24:14 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Alberta's Child
These sanctions apply to trade with the U.S.

Is the U.S. preventing Venezuela from unloading crude to be refined from American Companies?

78 posted on 05/24/2020 7:43:43 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 32:12))
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To: blam

Empty threat?


79 posted on 05/24/2020 11:35:47 PM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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80 posted on 05/24/2020 11:40:33 PM PDT by McGruff
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