Posted on 04/03/2020 6:14:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Bkmk
Tell that to the 10 million newly unemployed.
Here’s are items in the article to debate about:
“They don’t distinguish between those who die with the disease and those who die from it.”
and this:
“plenty of old people die who have cancer present in their bodies.”
The question I have is this — let’s assume that someone had cancer,WOULD THAT PERSON HAVE LIVED LONGER ( say another year or more ) had they not had Covid-19?
It may well be that Covid-19 HASTENED their imminent death.
It does us no good to say, well, he’ll be dead by March 2021 anyway even if he did not have CoVid-19. It may well be that Covid-19 HASTENED his imminent death, but to his loved ones, a year is still precious to them.
Fauci and Birx are predicting that the Daily Number of Deaths peak will be around April 14th.
Since hospitalization happen about 10 to 14 days before death, it stands to reason that now is supposed to be the peak for New Daily Hospitalizations.
And sure enough the New Daily Hospitalization numbers for both NYC and nationally are flat and they are low.
If you are weakened by cancer, you will die from the virus. But if you get hit by a bus with Covid, they don’t say you died from Covid
Busses can get Covid? Dang, this virus is tougher than I thought.
That’s precisely what I said in a previous post.
The question I have is this — let’s assume that someone had cancer,WOULD THAT PERSON HAVE LIVED LONGER ( say another year or more ) had they not had Covid-19?
It may well be that Covid-19 HASTENED their imminent death.
It does us no good to say, well, he’ll be dead by March 2021 anyway even if he did not have CoVid-19. It may well be that Covid-19 HASTENED his imminent death, but to his loved ones, a year is still precious to them.
So, in such case, how should we put the CAUSE of death from, Cancer or Covid-19?
If cancer, Covid-19 should be included in the death report as a hastening factor.
How will you determine the person would have died imminently from cancer if they didn’t have Covid? You are trying to reach a conclusion based on data you don’t have because you don’t know when or it they would have died.
If the same person gets hit by a bus, should the bus be included in the death report as a hastening factor?
Stop looking at national numbers. The cumulative number will rise, but your peak is going to be longer than that.
You have to differentiate between NY and the rest of the country.
And you are holding onto numbers that are very slippery.
Clearly...you haven’t been “contained long enough. Haha. (That sentence was a joke.)
Seriously, we have a ways to go yet. You and I both hope for the best.
Where is it you want to go that you are so worked up about staying home?
You are telling me that the $2400 bucks plus unemployment is not going to make 99% of the households solvent for the month?
And certainly you had a cash stash to get you through a few months didn’t you? I mean we are all conservatives.
And you call us drama queens. Jeez..I swear the country is full of people with ADD.
Look in the mirror, pal. You psychos wanted a panic, you got it, and now you have to live with what you did for the rest of your life.
Please point to a single post of mine that promotes hysteria.
You are losing your shit. You were working under the table weren’t you. You drank it all weekend. You are freaking out because you have no savings, you paid no taxes, and you won’t get a nickel of support.
You are panicky to get open and get back to work. Go set up a go fund me. I will send you a buck.
About as wrong as can be. Retired, and a senior citizen. Don’t need the “stimulus.” Will bank it, with the anticipation of giving it to someone in the family or church who need it because they don’t have a job any more.
What I’m really worried about, though, is what kind of economic future will be left for my daughter and son-in-law. All because of you psycho paranoids.
Slippery? Nope.
NYC and National "new daily hospitalization" numbers have been flat for about a week. And they line up with what Fauci and Birx are saying. How is that slippery?
The cumulative number will rise...
The average hospitalization stay is about 14 days. Since we've been at the Daily peak for about a week, the cumulative hospitalization peak will be a week from now.
BTTT.
That’s worse.
Geez, go out and live your life. No reason to stay cooped up. Go hang out with friends at the coffee shop. Go to a senior dance. I hear they are fun. Or a cruise. I know seniors like cheap cruises.
What are you afraid of?
Your kids will be fine. I keep hearing how the economy is going to come roaring back. They have good jobs, right. They will be fine.
This is America, right?
So what’s your worry? Or is that too panicky?
Where are you getting hospitalized numbers for?
2027 2020
2265 2019
I see no source for your t"otal deaths FROM ALL CAUSES in New York State for the last 8 years in week 10" stats, but it seems to be that if the total deaths in New York State in week 10 of 2019 was 2,265, and the total in week 10 of 2020 was 2,027, and those for CV was 2,153, then you have 112.00 more deaths in 2019 than the 2,153 for CV in 2020, and 238.00 more deaths from all causes in in 2019 than the 2027 in week 10 of 2020.
Meaning if this is right then there is plenty of room for deaths from other causes to be attributed to CV, perhaps due to such testing positive (which as a claim needs verification itself), or as being a exasperating condition. Which is not novel, and is likely done for the flu as well.
An adviser to Italy's minister of health, Professor Walter Ricciardi, said the coronavirus death rate in Italy may be higher than in other countries not only because of demographics -- Italy has the second oldest population in the world -- but also because of the way Italy records deaths of those who have tested positive for the coronavirus. "The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus," - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/03/21/so-thats-why-italys-coronavirus-death-rate-is-so-high-n2565445
And we have this claim: STUDY: 99% Of Patients Killed By Coronavirus In Italy Had Existing Illnesses
Also, three out of four young NYC Coronavirus fatalities had other medical conditions (Mar. 27)
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