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NY Doctor says his hospital already using HydroxyChloroquine for coronavirus patients and have had ZERO deaths
youtube.com ^ | 03.20.2020 | Dr William Grace

Posted on 03/20/2020 8:53:25 AM PDT by rxsid

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To: RummyChick

My guess is that the FDA is a deep state farm of anti-Trump, lifetime paid and pensioned Leftists. Along with the Dems and Media, they will do anything to harm Trump. Anything.


41 posted on 03/20/2020 9:44:00 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: wac3rd

Trump just used the words Deep State Department


42 posted on 03/20/2020 9:44:49 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
That doesn’t seem to comport with what I heard on the Presidential Briefing yesterday.

I have been a passionate Trump advocate around here since he announced, but that briefing was an example of him talking when he should listen.

HCQ is already approved by the FDA, nobody needs to do anything, any doctor can prescribe it.

What's NOT done is HCQ being labelled as "safe and effective for SARS CoV 2", that can't happen because a) nobody knows if it's true, and b) "safe and effective" is defined by statute and the President doesn't make laws.

43 posted on 03/20/2020 9:45:13 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: LibsRJerks
FDA has already approved it for compassionate use.

There is no such thing as "compassionate use approval" for a drug that is already licensed.

44 posted on 03/20/2020 9:46:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Diogenesis

The FDA isn’t preventing anyone from using hydroxychloroquine. It’s already an approved drug. The FDA isn’t willing to officially certify it for use against COVID-19, that’s all. Drugs are used “off-label” all the time.


45 posted on 03/20/2020 9:49:13 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Mom MD

the drain tube drains fluid from the pleural slate outside the lungs. there is no invasive way to drain fluid from the airspaces. Please leave the medicine to the professionals

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I’ve heard of this being done when the lungs fill with blood, so assumed the same was true for fluids inside the lungs.

Good thing this isn’t a medical community forum and I’m giving advice to people, rather than commenting on political topics. But I guess I can give up my speech and discussion rights to the professionals. Thanks for the harty rebuff MomMD :D


46 posted on 03/20/2020 9:51:07 AM PDT by z3n
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To: Pontiac

What if one prefers Vodka?


47 posted on 03/20/2020 9:52:06 AM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: z3n

Sorry. not aimed at you personally. there is just a lot of bad info floating around this forum.


48 posted on 03/20/2020 9:52:28 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

You are right to correct me. My sentences were phrased as factual declaratives and I typical try to avoid making statements like that about things which I don’t have confidence or experience in. My fault


49 posted on 03/20/2020 9:55:33 AM PDT by z3n
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To: RummyChick

Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if the head of the FDA were more Never Trumper scum.


50 posted on 03/20/2020 9:58:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rxsid

bookmark for later


51 posted on 03/20/2020 10:01:30 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: qwerty1234

“ ...Great news if it is true, but we already have a 98.6% survival rate in the US... “
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You do realize that among that 98.6% American survival rate survivors, a significant (but unknown) number have been and continue to be given Hydrooxychloroquine which has contributed to their survival.


52 posted on 03/20/2020 10:11:50 AM PDT by House Atreides (No, it is NOT THE FLU but it sure as hell is NOT THE SPANISH FLU or BLACK DEATH. No Panic!)
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To: LibsRJerks

I am listening to Pence on delay now and his staged, calm, doubletalk about meeting the ventilator and mask need is painful to watch.

Yes, Trump should have done this weeks and weeks ago.


53 posted on 03/20/2020 10:18:00 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: LibsRJerks

“rigging ventilators” — really? There’s a way to split a single ventilator to serve four patients? I would have thought they had to be in sync with the patient’s natural breathing somehow kind of like a CPAP machine.


54 posted on 03/20/2020 10:23:41 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: qwerty1234

THe more important statistic is whether it reduced hospital stays significantly, which the french trial suggested.

If you get people out in 5 days instead of 14, even IF you didn’t reduce the death rate, you almost triple the number of beds, since you get 3 people through when you used to get 1.

I believe once we have a treatment that can get us down to a 3-4 day hospital stay, we can lift most all restrictions, and just protect the old people and at-risk population while it plays out in the general population. The key is to avoid filling up the hospitals.


55 posted on 03/20/2020 10:31:27 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rxsid

wish there was a way in emergency situations, that peopel could sign a waver- that states they will not hold a hospital or drug manufacturer responsible IF the person decides to take the drug

It’s a shame that a few reactionary deaths can shut a drug down while there would be 1000’s, perhaps 10’s of 1000’s of folks dying without the drug -

Wish there was a form i could sign if i went into a hospital with something like this virus that states that i fully understand that the drug has not been FDA approved yet, and that there is no guarantee that it won’t harm me, but a agree to take the drug because the risk of dying from the flu or virus, or whatever is greater than the risk of the drug

of course scumbag lawyers will jump in when a person dies from the drug supposedly, and claim the person wasn’t of sound mind, due to the flu, or virus, or whatever, and then sue the crap out of hospital or drug maker-


56 posted on 03/20/2020 10:32:43 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Better Call Saul! /sandpiper


57 posted on 03/20/2020 10:58:28 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: wac3rd
"My guess is that the FDA is a deep state farm of anti-Trump, lifetime paid and pensioned Leftists. Along with the Dems and Media, they will do anything to harm Trump. Anything"

Very similar to the State Department.

58 posted on 03/20/2020 11:20:47 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: 9YearLurker; RummyChick
"I want to hear about our pharma factories starting up—with this as the first drug chugged out en masse"

One pharma example besides the commonly cited Bayer...

Mylan is restarting their plant in West Virginia to produce hydroxychloroquine [1].
Mylan to restart production of hydroxychloroquine [2].

59 posted on 03/20/2020 11:27:32 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

I use alpha hydroxy acid in my face cream. Am I immune, then? /sarc


60 posted on 03/20/2020 11:28:57 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Party that freed sIaves, passed Civil Rights is called racist by the party that started the KKK.)
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