Posted on 03/17/2020 3:38:55 AM PDT by Kaslin
Dennis needs to contact the admin to offer his expert medical and epidemiological analysis of the situation.
link is not working this morning?
It’s the sniffles. We are destroying the economy over a bad cold virus.
“We are destroying the economy over a bad cold virus.”
THEY are destroying the econmy using a hoax to interfere with a national election.
We shall see. The global deaths are about 1,000 per day and doubling every 4 days. At a bit shy of 7,000 yesterday it should be 14,000 in 4 days, 28,000 in 8 days. If some 20-40% of the globe population never gets it (for genetic reasons or otherwise) and only some 20% get it here in the US we should only get 40-60 Million catch it and if only 10% of them are seriously ill needing a hospital bed we need 4-6 million excess hospital beds in the next month or two. If only 1 % of the 4-6 million seriously ill die we may only be looking at some 40,000 to 60,000 excess deaths. If the death rate starts to level off in two weeks and we only have 10,000 to 20,000 dead we can probably do this. In a month the 20% that were most genetically likely to become infected will probably have had it. We likely can start to emerge from hiding in two weeks and start the recovery phase. Just rough numbers and estimates but I do think this is likely how it’s going to play out.
some 47% of americans have high blood pressure like me, and are at higher (about double) the risk of death from wuflu.
Just a data point for ya.
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That’s your fearful opinion, not data. Are you over 70? Is your blood pressure — and your body weight — thru the roof? If yes to all, quarantine yourself, not the rest of us.
It's not your high blood pressure. ACE Inhibitors, ARBs, thiazides are all suspect in helping the virus. Calcium channel blockers seem to be OK.
From a correspondence article in The Lancet Respiratory. The theory is backed up by review of who faired the worst in China.
www.thelancet.com/respiratory Published online March 11, 2020 https://doi.org/10.1016/S2213-2600(20)30116-8
Many of the factories in Italy have been sold to the Chinese and staffed with Chinese workers. It wouldn't make sense to infect the very workers who keep those plants running.....
There’s one reason why I don’t think this is a dry run for anything. When this all blows over and nothing catastrophic happens, people will feel humiliated about the ridiculous measures they took ... and a lot of them won’t obey the restrictions next time.
Now they are saying Iran had construction projects they contracted to Chinese outfits that brought in Chinese workers. There seems to be a theme here. Not saying it was a conspiracy probably just coincidence but Iran and Italy are the two most sick countries right now, France and Germany closing the gap.
Is this accurate? 47% of Americans implies 47% of all Americans. Perhaps you mean 47% of Americans over a certain age have high blood pressure.
Once a panic gets started, government leaders are basically forced to react to it. Think of it this way:
Either the disease is a serious threat or it is not. A leader can either react or he can ignore it. That means there are four possible combinations of circumstances here.
1. If the threat is real and the government reacts to it, then the government is acting appropriately.
2. If the threat is real and the government ignores it, you will have political turmoil.
3. If there is no threat but the government reacts to it, then at least people feel confident that the government was being appropriately cautious.
4. If there is no threat and the government does nothing, then life just goes on.
So you see the political calculus at work here: In three of the four scenarios, the response to “Do something!” is the one with the most favorable political outcome.
Its a thought but right now its the Maryland governor shutting the businesses down in Maryland, not the Federal government.
Perhaps this is a big experiment in case there is biological warfare in the future.
Well, I don’t blame President Trump (much). I think he’s doing the best balancing act possible at this time, given the forces against him.
I’m not terrified of the future, exactly, but I don’t like the way things are going at the moment, either.
We can hope for a backlash such as you describe, but I’m not all that confident.
I’ve seen this at work in my own state, where “snow emergency” declarations have been botched so badly (both ways ... where it is used when not needed, and not used when it IS needed) that people are starting to routinely ignore them.
I expect to see at least a trillion $ recovery program to
get the businesses recapitalized and restarted.
It will be tantamount to the student loan program.
The government will force businesses to comply with whatever
is p.c. to qualify for funding.
It will be corrupt.
This was a test of totalitarian power and a conditioning event. I'm sad to say we passed the test with flying colors. Few people even on free republic felt any push back was in order. I have maintained from the very day the words "lock down" were first uttered that Americans should refuse to comply to these orders no matter what the referenced threat. American's cannot be put on lock down, EVER! If we allow it, then we no longer have a constitution and we are only kidding ourselves that this is still a free country.
I think a certain short period of quarantine is warranted, but I agree with Mr. Prager.
I trust our President. He’s a lion of small, private businesses, and he will not let the small guy lose hope.
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