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Senators warn of threats posed by Chinese rail companies
Axios ^ | February 20, 2020 | Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian

Posted on 02/22/2020 11:59:09 AM PST by Twotone

Two U.S. senators are urging the Federal Transit Authority to clarify a ban on Chinese rail manufacturers and to warn local transit authorities of potential national security threats from China, in a letter obtained by Axios.

The big picture: The ban highlights a growing expansion of national security risks to include economic security, as the U.S. responds to Chinese government economic policies that many perceive as exploitative.

Details: Dated Feb. 13 and addressed to Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, the letter from Senators John Cornyn (R-Texas) and Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) cites confusion about the ban and urges the FTA to provide information to U.S. localities explaining the details behind the new policy.

The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2020 includes a provision that prohibits local U.S. transit authorities from using federal grant money to purchase buses and passenger rail cars from state-owned or state-controlled Chinese companies.

The provision means Chinese rail manufacturing giants CRRC and BYD will be blocked from the U.S. market beginning in 2022, when the ban will take effect. (It already applies to the Washington, D.C. metro).

(Excerpt) Read more at axios.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; railroads; securitythreat; transportation
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1 posted on 02/22/2020 11:59:09 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

The joke is on the big city mayors. NOTHING is coming out of China, so they’ll have to buy US.

[I won’t mention the fact that US production will also shutdown, once they use up their Chinese parts]


2 posted on 02/22/2020 12:03:04 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Twotone

Americans have sold themselves down the river. I cannot fathom how communists, enemies of freedom, are allowed to own anything in America. Why are we educating these people? Communists are the exact opposite of what America is supposed to be. Their influence is felt far and wide in this nation, to our detriment.


3 posted on 02/22/2020 12:06:27 PM PST by vpintheak (Leftists are full of "Love, peace" and bovine squeeze.)
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To: vpintheak

Now a communist is running for president and a large portion of the population doesn’t have a problem with it.


4 posted on 02/22/2020 12:12:28 PM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: vpintheak

DemocRATS have, we once produced the most steel in the world. My dad worked in 1 large steel mill after WW 2, until he fell from a catwalk and damaged his spine. He was a Boilermaker. Those mills now sit rotting.

Only idiots allow their main industry out of their country.


5 posted on 02/22/2020 12:13:06 PM PST by GailA (Intractable Pain, a Subset of Chronic pain Last a Life TIME at Level 10.)
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To: Twotone

Singapore and the Philippines found out the hard way...


6 posted on 02/22/2020 12:14:49 PM PST by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
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To: BobL
"The joke is on the big city mayors. NOTHING is coming out of China, so they’ll have to buy US.

[I won’t mention the fact that US production will also shutdown, once they use up their Chinese parts]"

Honestly a complete decoupling of the China > US supply chain needs to occur. Yet I do not doubt the unwashed masses in America would revolt at the prospects of economic disruption that would be needed.

7 posted on 02/22/2020 12:16:43 PM PST by buckalfa (Post no bills.)
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To: GailA
... Only idiots allow their main industry out of their country.

Well, there was that little problem with air pollution
I remember too well seeing a brown dome over Pittsburgh
But yeah, we just exported all that to China, now Beijing is “brown”

8 posted on 02/22/2020 12:18:11 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Starcitizen

Forgot links... Communist Chinese garbage trains...

Singapore:
https://www.railjournal.com/regions/asia/singapores-smrt-returns-chinese-metro-trains/

Philippines:
https://yicaiglobal.com/news/the-philippines-returns-48-lrt-trains-to-china-state-rail-firm-demands-refund


9 posted on 02/22/2020 12:18:27 PM PST by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
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To: Twotone

Here’s a direct link to Cornyn and Baldwin’s letter to Secy Chao....

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6781588-Cornyn-Baldwin-TIVSA-Implementation.html


10 posted on 02/22/2020 12:18:58 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Twotone

Here is an interesting issue. Do you have Comcast for your Internet or cable. If so, you are using a Chinese coded system. All the code comes from China. So, you can expect that they can watch you now, if they wished. Its partly true of other cable vendors. Many of them use Comcast’s systems. China has infiltrated lots of our systems. Its like the coronavirus. Its hard to keep out.


11 posted on 02/22/2020 12:21:40 PM PST by poinq
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To: buckalfa

“Yet I do not doubt the unwashed masses in America would revolt at the prospects of economic disruption that would be needed.”

Hell, the Democrats were bitching about somewhat higher prices for goods, due to tariffs. I had a field day calling them the new Globalist party. Anyway...tariffs is the way to ‘gently’ break our addiction. But it looks like we’re going to get some cold turkey now, also.


12 posted on 02/22/2020 12:36:33 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: HangnJudge

“Well, there was that little problem with air pollution
I remember too well seeing a brown dome over Pittsburgh
But yeah, we just exported all that to China, now Beijing is “brown””

Agree...we were far too dirty from the 1950s through 1980s, and we passed strong laws to clean things up (especially cars). But did we go too far, in some cases? Was it really smart to move our industrial base to China? Perhaps we should have tried a bit more for some middle ground?


13 posted on 02/22/2020 12:38:49 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

I always wonder what if we did the same with Japan back in the 20s, when we were still “friends”.


14 posted on 02/22/2020 12:41:20 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Twotone

I guess this spells the end of California’s bullet train to nowhere...


15 posted on 02/22/2020 1:02:04 PM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: BobL

...Perhaps we should have tried a bit more for some middle ground?

Agree completely


16 posted on 02/22/2020 1:57:24 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Twotone
I thought that China turns old rails into steel fence posts.


17 posted on 02/22/2020 2:03:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: GailA

I understand what youre saying but ask that you and many others here rethink that. They weren’t idiots at all, they knew full well what they were doing and cleverly managed to convince much of the population that it was to their benefit.

One should never let a main industry out, that makes sense but, what is a main industry? What about toilet paper and peas? Years ago we used to have a paper plant right next to a cannery. When I came back from the service it dawned on me one day while driving by how easy it would be should we ever need to for the two to work together to produce filters for gas masks.

I suppose that popped into my head because I knew that in the past companies merely retooled for what they were making to meet war time demands. On Monday they made cars and sewing machines, by Friday they were making tanks and guns.

Maybe its not to much of a problem if companies that don’t make many units a year, that don’t account for much of the GDP, to leave. Theres not much profit in investing in things like a company that sells electrical transformers. How much profit could there be off of a company that only makes a small number of units every year? Then again, our grid is part of our critical infrastructure. The Chinese entirely own world production. Here we are, relying on a technologically primitive and fragile industrial age grid, waiting for a replacement. We cross our fingers as protection against what could occur with many fighting against the Space Force necessary to protect the private industries trying to jump us ahead to a space based alternative.

I suppose there cant be too much harm if we let rubber monkey toy manufacturers leave. We don’t really need them...unless of course China decides they wont ship us some critically needed gaskets and O rings.


18 posted on 02/22/2020 2:06:11 PM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: poinq

Modern transit cars have a computer and S/W. I’m not sure if the Metro in DC ever got the code from an Italian car builder.

Good luck doing better with the Chinese.


19 posted on 02/22/2020 2:14:07 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: dfwgator

At least in the 1930s, Japan was starving for steel (and we found out why in 1941), and we gladly sold them the steel from our old train lines. It’s in the history books (until recently, of course)...but we still never learn.


20 posted on 02/22/2020 2:17:27 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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