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Trump Administration Plans to Raise Seasonal-Worker Cap
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 20 Feb 2020 | Michelle Hackman

Posted on 02/21/2020 12:38:49 PM PST by Theoria

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To: bert
The market wage for any job is the wage that gets it filled - Econ 101.

Further....... the legislated minimum wage may in some areas be=< what most are actually earning

The point remains that for the market wage, some Americans will want to do those jobs; suppressing that wage with foreigners is anti-American.

41 posted on 02/21/2020 2:21:09 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Fury
In several of the jobs (that pay minimum wage + 70 cents) they can’t get native born workers to take the jobs.

Then that's below the market wage for those jobs.

They can’t pay more per hour due to some law (maybe Federal)

If so, then that's what needs to change - not the number of work visas.

42 posted on 02/21/2020 2:23:06 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: House Atreides

A bar/restaurant in a Maine coastal town use seasonal workers from Eastern Europe. My son asked about and the owner told him, “The locals would rather stay home than work”.


43 posted on 02/21/2020 2:23:35 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: 9YearLurker
Including many, many college students who ought to be able to get summer jobs.

The college students I've encountered in my lifetime aren't interested in plant production work let alone cutting grass and all the other stuff I mentioned. Those jobs are available if they want them so why aren't they taking them?

44 posted on 02/21/2020 2:25:14 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: Rebelbase
the owner told him, “The locals would rather stay home than work”.

Work for the wage he was offering, that is. Many employers seem to feel entitled to cheap labor; they're really not too different than the free-s*** gimmedats.

45 posted on 02/21/2020 2:25:46 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: rrrod

Kids now wont put their damn phones down.
The snowflake culture is killing us.

*********

More than just kids. While driving down the road have you not
noticed that many are driving with one hand and the other is
holding their phone while they are talking or reading the post.


46 posted on 02/21/2020 2:26:00 PM PST by deport
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To: Hot Tabasco

Because employers offer low wages and poor working conditions to illegals.


47 posted on 02/21/2020 2:26:10 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Hot Tabasco; 9YearLurker
Those jobs are available if they want them so why aren't they taking them?

Because the market wage is not being offered.

48 posted on 02/21/2020 2:26:34 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
If so, then that's what needs to change - not the number of work visas.

I was writing about college work/study jobs.

Had some folks do outdoor work for me a few years ago - paid well and provided lunch. One guy was on the phone constantly. Told him put the phone away or leave when work breaks for lunch. He left at lunch break. I think there are some very hard workers out there - but it's a challenge to find good workers for odd jobs.

49 posted on 02/21/2020 2:27:26 PM PST by Fury
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To: 9YearLurker
Not the college students I’ve taught. There are plenty who would be up for it.

You may have taught them but my Tier I auto stamping company tried to hire them. The only ones who actually applied were the sons and daughters of the uneducated long time production workers whose kids were entering into college or in college and needed jobs for the summer. We're talking inner city Detroit..........

None of your elitist kids would ever give a thought about working at my plant......

50 posted on 02/21/2020 2:32:27 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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“There simply aren’t enough American workers willing to do labor.”

There would be many more if helicopter mommy didn’t take care of all their needs until their 40’s


51 posted on 02/21/2020 2:34:57 PM PST by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: deport

Correcto


52 posted on 02/21/2020 2:37:48 PM PST by rrrod (6)
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To: NobleFree
Because the market wage is not being offered.

You mean the wage the privileged workers demand?.....LOL!

It don't work that way bro, only in a union environment........

Do you or your kid need income or not? That's a very simple question and if yes, then the job is available to you. If no, then you have no argument........

53 posted on 02/21/2020 2:40:37 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I’m ok with that, they’re here legally and that’s all that matters......
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Please think that a statement through a little.

There are too many of every type of Visas being issued already. The work Visas are especially harmful.

The employers pay low wages, while denying American legals job experience when young and
supplementary income when older.

Trump better get this issue straight or he will answer for it as soon as 2020. The policy is destructive.


54 posted on 02/21/2020 2:40:43 PM PST by amihow
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To: NobleFree
Because the market wage is not being offered.

Who determines the market wage anyway? You? So you are calling for a mandatory working wage as determined by what you deem is necessary to live. Am I right?

We're getting close here so what is the mandatory wage you are demanding that would entice the lazy kids in this country to accept the jobs that the foreign season workers are taking?

55 posted on 02/21/2020 2:44:47 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I haven’t taught elitist college students and there is no reason such students should want that kind of job if they’ve got cushy internships lined up.


56 posted on 02/21/2020 2:45:52 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Hot Tabasco
Because the market wage is not being offered.

You mean the wage the privileged workers demand?

The wage that persuades an American to show up and do the job - that's how the labor market works, whine about "privilege" and "demands" as you will. Any employer who thinks they have a right to undercut American wages with foreign workers is the one demanding a privilege - to which American patriots say NO!

57 posted on 02/21/2020 2:46:27 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: amihow
he employers pay low wages, while denying American legals job experience when young and supplementary income when older.

Do yourself a favor, read the article. We're talking about H-2b visas for seasonal employees.......You know who they are, the guys who cut your grass, and pick your fruits and vegetables......Stay on track here.

58 posted on 02/21/2020 2:48:17 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Because the market wage is not being offered.

Who determines the market wage anyway?

The market - duh. Get out of your privileged mindset and rub a few brain cells together.

59 posted on 02/21/2020 2:49:10 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Any employer who thinks they have a right to undercut American wages with foreign workers is the one demanding a privilege - to which American patriots say NO!

Who exactly are the seasonal employees and what do they do? You know damn well who they are and you know why your kid or any other person doesn't want to do that manual labor..They're too lazy!

60 posted on 02/21/2020 2:52:35 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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