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James Carville Is Right: Democrats Should Be Panicking
Townhall.com ^ | February 13, 2020 | Laura Hollis

Posted on 02/13/2020 8:12:30 AM PST by Kaslin

Legendary Democratic strategist James Carville was interviewed by Vox's Sean Illing last week after Carville's doom-and-gloom jeremiad on MSNBC got a lot of people's attention. In his inimitable fashion, Carville warned that Democrats' love affair with Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is sending the party hurtling toward resounding defeat in November.

"Bernie Sanders isn't a Democrat," Carville insisted. "He's never been a Democrat. He's an ideologue."

Carville clearly thinks that Sanders has moved the party too far to the left, and he sharply criticized all the candidates' fixation with ideas that resonate only with the party's far-left wing, like "free college tuition" and student "debt forgiveness." "(P)eople all over this country worked their way through school, sent their kids to school, paid off student loans," he said. "They don't want to hear this s---. ... It's just not a winning message."

Carville also chastised Democrats for their condescension toward Southerners and rural Americans. And he warned that trying to be the lefty flavor du jour risks alienating a core constituency: African Americans. "These voters are a hell of a lot more important than a bunch of 25-year-olds shouting everyone down on Twitter."

Carville's rant earned plenty of praise from Republicans on Twitter. But even a quick read makes it clear that Carville isn't necessarily opposed to the ideas that the most "progressive" Democrats are pitching. He's just warning Democrats not to tip their hand too soon: "We have candidates on the debate stage talking about open borders and decriminalizing illegal immigration. ... You've got Bernie Sanders talking about letting criminals and terrorists vote from jail cells. It doesn't matter what you think about any of that, or if there are good arguments -- talking about that is not how you win a national election. ... The purpose of a political party is to acquire power. All right? Without power, nothing matters."

But it likely doesn't matter much anyway. Carville, like his protege former President Bill Clinton, is considered by many on the left to be a vestige of another era.

Take The New Republic, for example. In an article titled "The obsolete politics of James Carville," author Ed Burmila attacks Carville's abundance of caution, saying, "This is endemic among liberals of the Clinton 1990s vintage, the insistence that their caricatured ideal of the working class cannot stomach the sort of change the left wing of the party prefers."

In other words, "OK, boomer."

Burmila clearly thinks that this is the far-left's moment, and he is not alone. Sanders, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and plenty of other Democrats on the scene maintain that the time for Clintonesque "triangulation" and the delicate dance of campaign dissembling is past, that voters are ready to accept all those "crazy" ideas that Carville dismisses as electoral suicide: open borders, taxpayer-funded abortion, single-payer health care, skyrocketing taxation and -- yeah, baby, yeah -- full-throated socialism.

Good luck with that.

This is a problem of the Democratic Party's own making. In recent years, it has pandered to the leftmost wing of its voter base. No idea has been too extreme, as long as it gets voters to the polls. And if the Democratic National Committee's eventual candidate isn't "progressive" enough? Well, where else are those voters going to go?

But 2016 was a watershed year for Democrats. The momentum was clearly swinging Bernie Sanders' way during the primaries. It didn't matter; the nomination of the deeply unpopular Hillary Clinton was a foregone conclusion. Bernie played good soldier and threw his support behind Clinton. A big chunk of his supporters did not, and they have long memories.

This year, Democratic voters appear poised to do what Republican voters did in 2016. Republicans were fed up with GOP candidates' fervent promises on the campaign trail and tepid performance in office, and they went in droves for Donald Trump.

This year, the uber-left has decided to hold the Democratic Party's feet to the fire.

Predictably, Democratic candidates have stumbled over one another trying to establish their socialist bona fides. Sen. Kamala Harris promised to effectively repeal the Second Amendment from the Oval office, set drug prices and confiscate patents. Elizabeth Warren's many "plans" have included taxes that would gouge smaller businesses, not millionaires and billionaires, and policies that would destroy retirees' pensions.

But these folks are Johnny-come-latelies, and voters on the left know it. So avowed socialist Bernie Sanders (who was defending bread lines before it was cool) now finds himself the front-runner in a field of candidates, none of whom can crack 30% of the votes in their own party -- and who will almost certainly not get a majority of Electoral College votes in the general election.

Why? The economy is booming. President Donald Trump's popularity is increasing. The impeachment debacle damaged Democrats, not Trump. More to the point, Trump voters (including a lot of converts to the cause) are fiercely loyal. And they, too, have been paying attention to the Democratic Party's listing leftward, if primary turnout is any indication. Trump received 97% of the Republican vote in the Iowa caucuses, and in this week's New Hampshire primary, he broke a 40-year record for the most votes cast for an incumbent president (about 130,000) well in excess of the number of votes cast for incumbent Presidents Barack Obama (about 49,000), George Bush (about 54,000) or Bill Clinton (about 77,000).

It's too early to predict whether Sanders will keep this momentum going, or whether Joe Biden will miraculously rebound from two embarrassing losses, or whether newcomer former Mayor Pete Buttigieg or Sen. Amy Klobuchar will ride the wave of their strong showings in Iowa and New Hampshire to broader voter appeal. What does seem to be clear is that no one in the current crop of Democratic candidates appears to have what it takes to trounce Trump.

James Carville is right to be panicking.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020demprimary; campaignsnelections; demonrats; jamescarville; socialism
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1 posted on 02/13/2020 8:12:30 AM PST by Kaslin
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2 posted on 02/13/2020 8:16:09 AM PST by simpson96
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To: Kaslin

They have true internal polling and they know how good the economy is. I’m sure they are in their smoky back rooms. They just won’t let on. The fact that Bernie is winning I’m sure worries the DNC more.


3 posted on 02/13/2020 8:17:38 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue
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4 posted on 02/13/2020 8:19:13 AM PST by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: Kaslin

What we are seeing is the same that happened in Britain, a Labor Party out of touch with it’s base and getting the worst defeat since 1935. I don’t see how the Democrats avoid the same result.


5 posted on 02/13/2020 8:22:57 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: Kaslin

Let’s also not forget that “The squad” have hitched their wagons to Bernie.
Ya, that’ll help him


6 posted on 02/13/2020 8:23:16 AM PST by diverteach (You canÂ’t buy arms from the NRA, but you can buy them from Planned Parenthood.)
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To: Kaslin

My dream is for self-congratulatory arrogant “moderate” Dems (only a delusion-—there are none in 2020) to split with Communists (”Socialists” or “Democratic Socialists—again a delusion as only Communist is accurate).

Maybe feminists will now vote only for feminists, blacks only for blacks, Latinos for themselves and the Biden and Carville types for Dem equivalent of Jeb Bush and Kasich. And deranged climate activists will refuse to cooperate with any of the above unless they kiss their feet first.

Balkanized and a minority forever like France, Israel and others.


7 posted on 02/13/2020 8:23:25 AM PST by frank ballenger (End vote harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Kaslin
James Carville Is Right: Democrats Should Be Panicking

The clintonista reptiles and vermin are scurrying out from under their rocks ... Madam Hillary Benghazi won't be far behind.

8 posted on 02/13/2020 8:25:28 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Takedown My Duly Elected President and You're Attacking The Constitution! IT WILL BE DEFENDED!)
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To: Kaslin

James, ask the DNC how in hell they allow a person that was not even a registered Democrat until he decided to run for the nomination, to be on the verge of taking over the party in the first place................


9 posted on 02/13/2020 8:27:32 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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To: Kaslin
Take The New Republic, for example. In an article titled "The obsolete politics of James Carville," author Ed Burmila attacks Carville's abundance of caution, saying, "This is endemic among liberals of the Clinton 1990s vintage, the insistence that their caricatured ideal of the working class cannot stomach the sort of change the left wing of the party prefers."

When I read this, I could not help but think of The Twilight Zone Episode "The Obsolete Man" (which was probably my favorite episode). I'm sure that it has not occurred to Burmila that the State he craves would someday declare him "obsolete" and drag him screaming out the door on the way to his liquidation.

10 posted on 02/13/2020 8:28:02 AM PST by henkster
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To: Kaslin

i just finished watching a Jonestown documentary.
Jim Jones and even more his followers truly reminded me of something..

Hopefully they will be passing out the grape drink on Nov 4.


11 posted on 02/13/2020 8:28:49 AM PST by mowowie
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To: Kaslin
The New Republic used to be head-over-heels in love with Al Gore. Has anyone at that magazine urged Fat Albert to come to the rescue of the party in 2020?
12 posted on 02/13/2020 8:29:00 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: mowowie

+ 10000


13 posted on 02/13/2020 8:30:26 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I always thought the Democratic Leadership Council took the party in the right direction.

Keep Democrats in the middle and borrow sensible ideas from the Left and the Right to be where most Americans are.

That’s the party I voted for in 1992. That party doesn’t exist today.


14 posted on 02/13/2020 8:31:23 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Red Badger

Because running 3rd party would have been a death wish for the DNC..


15 posted on 02/13/2020 8:33:00 AM PST by mowowie
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To: mowowie

Green Party would welcome ALL of them......................


16 posted on 02/13/2020 8:35:32 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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To: diverteach

The squad has not “hitched their wagons to Bernie”, they have grabbed the torch. AOC agreed to be a surrogate for Sanders and never once mentioned his name at a campaign event!

She has positioned herself as the new Bernie and elbows him out of the way at every opportunity.

She refuses to donate to the DNC as all of her peers are required to do based on fundraising. Do not think the DNC has not noticed her behavior or attitude.

The fracture created by Sanders in the DNC will continue to grow with the squad. Sanders nominally stayed on the team after the last primary, but AOC holds the team in contempt now and shows no indication that she will ever reconcile.


17 posted on 02/13/2020 8:36:52 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: Kaslin

The Democrats should abandon direct primaries and caucus in every state. That way they can find consensus candidates to rally behind, instead of being stuck with Crazy Bernie.

I have participated in a caucus in the past, and they are a great way to steer voters away from both batsh!t crazy socialists and doddering old fossils.


18 posted on 02/13/2020 8:37:03 AM PST by Lying Dog Faced Pony Soldier (If Joe Biden calls me a liar, I must be telling the truth!)
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To: Kaslin

It would be a hoot to see Donald Trump run in the Democrat Primary in some deep red state, just to see him get delegates at the Democrat Convention!

If Bernie, who is not a Democrat, can do it, why not The Donald?


19 posted on 02/13/2020 8:37:03 AM PST by Lying Dog Faced Pony Soldier (If Joe Biden calls me a liar, I must be telling the truth!)
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To: goldstategop

But they were always pro-abortion.


20 posted on 02/13/2020 8:37:24 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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