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Sir Winston Churchill - Funeral (I Vow To Thee) - The Nation's Farewell
Pathe ^ | January 30, 1965 | Sir Winston Churchill

Posted on 01/30/2020 8:20:32 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie

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To: dfwgator

I didn’t see any British officers there.”” “”

You didn’t see the British intelligence officers when Trump shook hands with notorious Ukrainian oligarchs at some dinner. It doesn’t mean the British officers weren’t involved into getting Trump and these nasty people into the same place at the same time before the cameras and or it doesn’t mean that these people share some common agenda with Trump.


61 posted on 01/30/2020 12:07:48 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: SunkenCiv
Wow! Thank you for that link! I have never seen that one before. That will be a permanant bookmark for me!
62 posted on 01/30/2020 2:06:49 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: dfwgator

I agree completely. Hitler and Stalin had an agreement to carve up eastern Europe for themselves and were allies at first. Stalin would have went right along with Hitler in knocking another major power out of play. So often forgotten is how Stalin invaded Finland as Germany invaded Poland. Stalin too annexed parts of Poland (and kept it after the war).


63 posted on 01/30/2020 2:58:30 PM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: McGavin999

It is interesting on that aspect. Surprisingly the voters did not realize that voting for Labor would result in the removal of Churchill. It was towards the end of the war. The population was tired of privation and lack of housing. They bought what Labor was selling. Other note...rationing continued for another ten years in England. Here is the US..pretty much within minutes of the end of the war...rationing was eliminated. (Slight exaggeration perhaps, but pretty quick.)


64 posted on 01/30/2020 3:07:11 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: Vaden

But then Poland had similar pact with Hitler and a year before annexed Czechoslovakia with the Germans.


65 posted on 01/30/2020 7:07:06 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Of course the history of Europe is extremely complicated. There were many wars, conflicts, border changes, annexations, and re-annexations.

It all got much more serious when the two biggest players, Germany and the Soviet Union, began absorbing whole countries and betraying everyone.


66 posted on 01/30/2020 7:48:18 PM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: Vaden

Annexation is annexation no matter big or small. As for betrayal I have no idea. I thought Chamberlain was an expert at betrayal. It is not German, Russian, Polish or Czech name.


67 posted on 01/30/2020 7:57:51 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
Thanks for putting me on the path with your topic!

68 posted on 01/30/2020 10:34:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: C210N

National Geographic is sh*t now, politically correct, and “woke”.


69 posted on 01/31/2020 5:54:11 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: Pelham
Thank you, my brother! The Brits carried on heroically without anyone’s help. Thank God they did!
70 posted on 01/31/2020 5:57:31 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: wardaddy

Myself as well. For JFK I was 6 and for Winston I was 7. I vividly recall the huge headline in a local paper I saw Man of the Century dies.


71 posted on 01/31/2020 6:04:26 AM PST by xp38
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Of all the Churchill speeches I’ve heard, this is one of my favorites. It’s 35 minutes, but well worth the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhUXdolcIPQ


72 posted on 01/31/2020 6:07:19 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler ("NUTS!!!")
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To: NorseViking

Why do you continue this babbling nonsense? Did your mother never teach one of the most important golden rules of civilized behavior-don’t be a know-it-all?

You are placing words in my mouth I don’t say, seemingly misconstrue what I do say, and twist it all around so you can be the only one right. It has passed into annoyance.

NOTHING I have said is incorrect. I merely note ACTUAL events that happen. History is filled with this-or-that, coulda/woulda/shoulda, and what-if. Nobody is 100% perfect, and nobody’s hands are blood-free in this world.

Now take 3 or 4 valiums and go lay down.


73 posted on 01/31/2020 7:30:45 AM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: NorseViking

And, for the record, I DO NOT agree that “annexation is annexation big or small.”

Hitler’s absorption of entire countries was MUCH more serious than Poland’s relatively tiny parcels as it showed the Nazi tendency for hideously aggressive expansion in order to build a totalitarian superstate.

And THAT is the real reason war broke out. HITLER. And he mostly helped the Allies win with his horrible decisions.


74 posted on 01/31/2020 7:40:29 AM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I was an Oxford undergraduate at the time of the funeral. After the ceremony the coffin was taken to be interred at the churchyard in Blenheim, near Oxford, the home of the Churchill family. It was carried in a special train: a single open truck pulled by a steam loco, both black, at walking pace, with four guardsmen standing with arms reversed at the corners. I went to see it pass at a small rural level crossing a few miles away. There was a small, silent group of a score or so others also there. A not-to-be-forgotten experience.


75 posted on 01/31/2020 12:20:42 PM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy
Thank you for sharing that wonderful experience. You are surely lucky. I once saw an interview with one of the train crew. He said that the rural fields and roadsides were dotted with people paying tribute.
76 posted on 01/31/2020 2:06:26 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: xp38

That was a horrible decade. Horrible.


77 posted on 01/31/2020 2:12:10 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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from the FRchives:

78 posted on 02/01/2020 2:38:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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