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NY Times writer is fed up with Iowa going first
Hot Air.com ^ | January 27, 2020 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 01/27/2020 11:50:55 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Dilbert San Diego

Nationwide primary would mean only candidates with a billion dollar budget going in would be able to compete.


21 posted on 01/27/2020 1:11:39 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Ransomed
I think states pretty much have all the authority when it comes to scheduling their elections. New Hampshire could probably schedule its 2024 primary in January 2023 if it wants to.
22 posted on 01/27/2020 1:13:19 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Alberta's Child

The national parties have sets of rules. They could be changed, of course.


23 posted on 01/27/2020 1:16:26 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: MplsSteve

Yes, Missouri is representative of America.

Ironically, the last Democrat to win Missouri at the presidential level is Clinton in 1996.

The last Democrats to represent MO—Claire McCaskill and Jay Nixon-—moderate Democrats.


24 posted on 01/27/2020 1:34:51 PM PST by GuavaCheesePuff (I want to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee-Old Yankee Stadium (1923-2008))
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To: jjotto

Like Bloomberg


25 posted on 01/27/2020 1:35:49 PM PST by GuavaCheesePuff (I want to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee-Old Yankee Stadium (1923-2008))
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To: Kaslin

Here’s an idea, Democrats. Make the first primary Washington DC and the next one in Puerto Rico. That will insure that the Dem candidate will be some race-baiting extremist that the Republican can easily defeat.


26 posted on 01/27/2020 1:41:12 PM PST by OrangeHoof (The Democrats - Unafraid to burn in Hell.)
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To: Kaslin

Farmers and big ag are just 1% of the economy but they get a huge disproportionate political footprint mostly due to Iowa “going first”.


27 posted on 01/27/2020 1:57:36 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ransomed
I think there is a legitimate question as to why the first several elections in the nomination process are never rotated around. You would think the parties would also require the first few states to hold elections in the nomination process actually regularly vote for their party in recent general elections.

I agree with you on this.

28 posted on 01/27/2020 1:58:23 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s actually kind of surprising that there hasn’t already been a progressivist movement to strip lily-white Iowa and New Hampshire of their special first-in-the-nation privilege which allows them to dictate the Presidential candidates of both parties.
I can only guess that it’s because both states also happen to be purple states that the two national parties are afraid to offend the voters in those states by suggesting they be stripped of their privileged status.
If those states ever lose their purple status, I expect they will also lose their first-in-the-nation privilege.


29 posted on 01/27/2020 2:09:21 PM PST by rhinohunter (I am Cristeros)
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To: Kaslin

If you’re going to use numbers to make your case, you’d better be right. It’s too easy to check and prove the exaggerations (fake news) The demographics of Des Moines is much closer to the national average than he stated:

The ethnic composition of the population of Des Moines, IA is composed of 143k White Alone residents (66.5%), 28.1k Hispanic or Latino residents (13.1%), 22.9k Black or African American Alone residents (10.7%), 12.7k Asian Alone residents (5.92%), 6.95k Two or More Races residents (3.24%), 609 American Indian & Alaska Native Alone residents (0.284%), 487 Some Other Race Alone residents (0.227%), and 150 Native Hawaiian & Other Pacific Islander Alone residents (0.0698%).


30 posted on 01/27/2020 3:05:43 PM PST by smiles359
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To: Truthoverpower

Dick Gephardt won Iowa in ‘88, was not nominated.

And of course home state Tom Harkin in 1992, which rendered the caucuses irrelevant that year.


31 posted on 01/27/2020 4:47:21 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Kaslin; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; LS; fieldmarshaldj; randita; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; ...

Well, why should Iowa be first? Tradition is not a good reason. I don’t know why they like having these a-holes flood their IHOPs every four years anyway, obviously it boosts their economy and that’s probably it.

I don’t care what the dems do but on our side, of the current early states, South Carolina should be first (makes sense for Dems too because of the Black vote).

Of course, and so far no one agrees with me, but it’s simply not fair at all unless the whole country votes at the same time. Imagine if it was like that in the general election (Maine used to vote early, but not for President).

I’m devising a system I’d like to see used for the GOP nomination, national caucuses with a state by state point system based on how many Republican votes the state cast in the last election (mimicking the electoral college), runoff if no one gets a majority.

I predict without change eventually every state will try to move to Super Tuesday and create a defacto national primary.

If you insist on staggering the primaries they has to be a better way to do it.


32 posted on 01/27/2020 4:56:37 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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33 posted on 01/27/2020 7:08:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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34 posted on 01/27/2020 7:14:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Kaslin

Texas starts voting Feb. 18.


35 posted on 01/27/2020 7:55:50 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Kaslin
...for all that Iowa should never go first again.

I've a simple solution:

Quit reporting on what happened there!

You guys do such a good job now of not reporting things that do not fit your agenda; this should be easy!

36 posted on 01/27/2020 9:02:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DesertRhino
I don’t like Iowa going first because Iowa is a leftist state.

I know that 49 (or 56) other states can change their dates if they wish; so THEY can be first.

Ain't CHOICE grand!


37 posted on 01/27/2020 9:03:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: central_va

Wait ‘til that 1% shuts down!


38 posted on 01/27/2020 9:04:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

David Leonhardt doesn’t get it.

The reason Iowa and NH are first and need to stay first - IS because they’re small enough that citizens can interact with the candidates.

If we started with large states the person with the most money AND the largest and most talented PR firm would win. Just create a TV image and buy ads. Can’t do that in Iowa and NH... nope, citizens get to take a measure of the candidates.... up close and personal...which helps all of us.


39 posted on 01/27/2020 9:09:13 PM PST by GOPJ (Will MSNBC bimbos go moist talking to Lev Parnas like with Michael Avenatti?therealreal.com)
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To: Elsie

No, because New Hampshire (and probably Iowa) law says that the state has to go first.


40 posted on 01/27/2020 9:22:36 PM PST by x
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