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If the alphabet kids have rights so should Downs kids!
1 posted on 12/13/2019 2:57:28 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Too many double negatives.


2 posted on 12/13/2019 2:59:26 PM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Morgana

Yeah shouldn’t you be prevented from aborting a gay baby?

Honestly I don’t like this whole thing. The idea that Down’s syndrome babies are protected but other babies are not is wrong also.

In a way it’s the result of all our “equal protection” laws. I guess we shouldn’t be able to abort women or minorities, but white Male babies could be aborted because they don’t have special status.

Whatever is moral or good should apply to all babies.


3 posted on 12/13/2019 3:05:12 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Morgana

“EVERY reason to have an abortion is a valid reason,” Colleen McNicholas, a Planned Parenthood abortionist, told the AP.

Guess that settles it.

Eugenics uber alles.


6 posted on 12/13/2019 3:08:38 PM PST by kallisti (OLDTHINKERS UNBELLYFEEL INGSOC)
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To: Morgana
WINNING?

I think this is 'WINNING'!

7 posted on 12/13/2019 3:13:18 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Morgana

Maybe scientists will discover the direct correlation between quantity of melanin pigments, especially eumelanin in the epidermis and intelligence levels, thus justify aborting those high in melanin pigments.

Oh, sorry. They already are the greatest proportion of abortions./s

Life is precious.


8 posted on 12/13/2019 3:14:05 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Morgana; All

What is the plain spoken, non-lawyer, translation of this ruling.


14 posted on 12/13/2019 3:35:52 PM PST by ptsal ( Media & DNC word game. It wasn't spying, it was just surveillance.)
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To: Morgana
In October, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals panel ruled 2-1 against the pro-life law, arguing that its enforcement would block “access to constitutionally protected health care services.”

Some interesting takeaways from this statement.

Health care services are not a constitutional right. More imaginary rights created by activist jurists.

How does abortion constitute "health care"? It is an elective operation that is only performed at the request of the woman. It is never (99.99%) medically necessary. Nor it is of any health benefit to the (non)mother. Unless convenience is now considered a "health benefit". On the contrary, there is substantial medical evidence that live birth is safer for the woman.

18 posted on 12/13/2019 3:47:42 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Morgana

America’s robed mullahs UNITE! Standing O from the EUGENICISTS. The ATTACK on civilization continues.


19 posted on 12/13/2019 3:52:23 PM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization? Remember the Alamo! Remember the republic?)
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To: Morgana
As long as abortion is legal for any reason, laws that attempt to save certain babies (even for eugenics reasons) will likely be struck down.

If you can't ban them all, it's going to be a time frame issue until someone finds a number of weeks that, literally, splits the baby.

20 posted on 12/13/2019 3:58:29 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Morgana
GENERATION X


22 posted on 12/13/2019 4:13:51 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm ( 32:12))
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To: Morgana

I actually had a discussion post taken down at another site for exactly that issue.

Someone asked if parents would terminate a child if there was a genetic test for homosexuality and/or transgenderism, and whether or not it could be prohibited.

I brought up that you can terminate a child for any reasons at any time. You can end a pregnancy because you don’t want a kid right now because of the hassle. And there is no limit on terminating pregnancies because the child is imperfect. The Asian community in Canada and North America are engaging in a modest level of sex selected abortion based on data. A feminist received Twitter backlash for terminating a healthy boy, because she hates men.

If you can kill a kid because you don’t want that gender, if you can kill the kid because it is inconvenient, you can certainly kill it because it is abnormal or diagnosed prenatally as mentally ill.

(That’s probably the part that got my answer deleted and the warning on my account - describing homosexuality as abnormal and transgenderism as a mental illness.)

My firstborn had clubbed feet, now fully corrected, but we ended up with a surgery and a year of casting. There are people who terminate pregnancies for that and hare lip.

I brought up that if you can end the pregnancy for any reason, then ending it because the child is imperfect is considered even more moral. And a child who probably won’t have children and can’t live a normal life is even more justifiable.

I was also flamed for bringing up the fact that liberals have already failed on that point - an estimated 100 million girls have been aborted or just killed after birth for being girls - so don’t argue civil rights when feminists gave their side a pass for two generations.

But they honestly, seriously tried to argue an exception like this in their favor - that you can kill a kid just because it is inconvenient, but not if it is a protected minority.

To be logically consistent, you CANNOT argue that someone can kill a child because it has clubbed feet but not if it has Down’s Syndrome.

That’s why I, as a prolifer who actually had a kid with a birth defect, think this law is indefensible. You can’t have carveouts like this. It isn’t logical and isn’t fair.

You can argue for no abortion or limiting it to the first trimester. You can’t argue “any one any time but not the group I think is beyond criticism”.


25 posted on 12/13/2019 5:05:33 PM PST by tbw2
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The United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit [As of April 28, 2019]:
Age	Title	        Judge	                Duty station	Born    Term of Service                 Appointed by
68	Chief Judge	R. Guy Cole Jr.	        Columbus, OH	1951	1995–present   &2014–present	Clinton
71	Circuit Judge	Karen Nelson Moore	Cleveland, OH	1948	1995–present	—	—	Clinton
71	Circuit Judge	Eric L. Clay	        Detroit, MI	1948	1997–present	—	—	Clinton
69	Circuit Judge	Julia Smith Gibbons	Memphis, TN	1950	2002–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
59	Circuit Judge	Jeffrey Sutton	        Columbus, OH	1960	2003–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
67	Circuit Judge	Richard Allen Griffin	Traverse City	1952	2005–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
53	Circuit Judge	Raymond Kethledge	Ann Arbor, MI	1966	2008–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
65	Circuit Judge	Helene White	        Detroit, MI	1954	2008–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
66	Circuit Judge	J Branstetter Stranch	Nashville, TN	1953	2010–present	—	—	Obama
68	Circuit Judge	Bernice B. Donald	Memphis, TN	1951	2011–present	—	—	Obama
50	Circuit Judge	Amul Thapar	     *  Covington, KY	1969 	2017–present	—	—	Trump
55	Circuit Judge	John K. Bush	     *  Louisville, KY	1964	2017–present	—	—	Trump
51	Circuit Judge	Joan Larsen	     *  Ann Arbor, MI	1968	2017–present	—	—	Trump
50	Circuit Judge	John B. Nalbandian   *  Cincinnati, OH	1969	2018–present	—	—	Trump
47	Circuit Judge	Chad Readler	     *  Columbus, OH	1972	2019–present	—	—	Trump
40	Circuit Judge	Eric E. Murphy	     *  Columbus, OH	1979	2019–present	—	—	Trump


======================
83	Senior Circuit	Gilbert S. Merritt Jr.	Nashville, TN	1936	1977–2001      	2001–present	Carter &1989–1996
95	Senior Circuit	Harry W. Wellford	inactive	1924	1982–1991	1991–present	Reagan
90	Senior Circuit	Ralph B. Guy Jr.	Ann Arbor, MI	1929	1985–1994       1994–present	Reagan
87	Senior Circuit	James L. Ryan	        inactive	1932	1985–2000	2000–present	Reagan
75	Senior Circuit	Danny Julian Boggs	Louisville, KY	1944	1986–2017      	2017–present	Reagan &2003–2009
84	Senior Circuit	Alan Eugene Norris	Columbus, OH	1935	1986–2001	2001–present	Reagan
83	Senior Circuit	Richard Suhrheinrich	Lansing, MI	1936	1990–2001	2001–present	G.H.W. Bush
83	Senior Circuit	Eugene Edward Siler Jr.	London, KY	1936	1991–2001	2001–present	G.H.W. Bush
75	Senior Circuit	Alice M. Batchelder	Medina, OH	1944	1991–2019      	2019–present	G.H.W. Bush &2009–2014
77	Senior Circuit	Martha Craig Daughtrey	Nashville, TN	1942	1993–2009	2009–present	Clinton
77	Senior Circuit	Ronald Lee Gilman	Memphis, TN	1942	1997–2010	2010–present	Clinton
71	Senior Circuit	John M. Rogers	        Lexington, KY	1948	2002–2018	2018–present	G.W. Bush
67	Senior Circuit	Deborah L. Cook	        Akron, OH	1952	2003–2019	2019–present	G.W. Bush
73	Senior Circuit	David McKeague	        Lansing, MI	1946	2005–2017	2017–present	G.W. Bush

& denotes Chief Judge of the Court
* denotes Federalist Society member

27 posted on 12/13/2019 6:50:54 PM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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“Federal Court Vacates Decision Overturning Ohio Law Banning Abortions on Babies With Down Syndrome
Life News ^ | Dec, 13, 2019, | Steven Ertelt”


35 posted on 12/14/2019 4:33:50 PM PST by Lowell1775
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To: Morgana

Kill normal babies only. Wouldn’t want to discriminate.


37 posted on 12/15/2019 12:25:11 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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