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BREAKING: House Judiciary Just Voted 23 - 17
Donald Trump For President ^ | 12/13/2019 | Donald J. Trump

Posted on 12/13/2019 7:51:28 AM PST by Jim W N

Just in.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 116th; dopeydems; impeachment
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To: mlo
A statutory crime is not required for impeachment. I’m sure you must have heard that before.

You hear a lot of things these days - doesn't mean its true. You've got to check things out yourself becsue much of what you "hear" these days is bull sh#t Delusional Leftist lies.

What does the Constitution actually say?

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
U.S. Const., Art. II, Sec. 4.

The Constitution leaves it up to Congress what that crime is, but one must have committed a crime to be impeached. Also, since a crime must be involved, the impeachment process is subject to the 4th and 5th Amendments whereby the accusers cannot even start a legitimate investigation without reasonable suspicion followed at some point with probable cause that a crime has in fact been committed.

None of that has happened here which makes this along with the decrepit Mueller investigation unconstitutional and illegal.

IMPEACH THE IMPEACHERS!

101 posted on 12/13/2019 9:43:46 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Candor7
Believe me, it will be the same as the UK election last night, only much stronger: Trump will win 40 states.

Thank the Lord that our founding fathers devised a system that keeps the country's leader isolated from removal by the simple action of the opposing party. The example of British system (and its copies in other Western countries) shows how easy it is to take out the leader by just a single vote of no confidence. So even though impeachment is part of the process in the US, it requires a second step: Conviction by the other house of Congress.

102 posted on 12/13/2019 9:44:58 AM PST by CedarDave (Public schools are better named "propaganda indoctrination centers." Educate your children at home.)
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To: Jim W N

Again, to reiterate (worth repeating):

The Delusional Dems: Trump being Trump is an impeachable offense.

Seriously though, many think there are no constitutional limitations regarding impeachment. They are wrong. The Constitution says impeachment requires the one impeached must have committed a crime (U.S. Const., Art. II, Sec. 4).

Impeachment being a criminal proceeding puts impeachment in the cross-hairs of the Fourth and Fifth Amendments (4A & 5A) which prohibit UNREASONABLE searches and seizures, including investigations. Thus to launch a constitutional impeachment investigation, there must be at least particularized and articulatable reasonable suspicion (RS) of a crime being committed and to proceed at some point there must be probable cause (PC) of the crime being committed. Even a traffic stop requires RS. A cop can’t pull you over because he doesn’t like you or has a “hunch” you’ve committed a crime. The cop must have evidence that you have committed a particular violation that he can clearly articulate.

In this so-called impeachment case, Art. II, Sec. 4 doesn’t define necessarily what the crime must be, only that it is a crime. The Constitution leaves the definition of a crime up to Congress - the crime being charged is where the scope of impeachment is undefined by the Constitution. So if Trump has committed a crime that Congress has already legitimately and constitutionally legislated as a crime and there is RS and RS to investigate and proceed, then the impeachment proceedings are on solid constitutional grounds.

But what particular crime had the Delusional Dems found that they have clearly articulated to constitutionally justify an investigation of Trump? I know of none. They launched the investigation and proceeded to the impeachment process without articulating or clarifying any RS or PC of a crime, making this whole process unconstitutional and illegal.

Like the horrific Spanish Inquisition, the Delusional Dems impeachment investigation of Trump was launched at entirely will, ignoring the constitutional requirements and individual rights against such unjust government acts as reminded in the 4A & 5A. The Delusional Dems have proceeded as though America was a third-world dictatorship where government at will stomps on and entirely disregards the God-given rights and freedoms of the individual. Today Trump, tomorrow you and I.

The Delusional Dems have tried to make it easier to impeach a U.S. President than to make a traffic stop. After this debacle is over (soon I think), I hope these corrupt and delusional Dems are called to answer for THEIR unconstitutional and illegal acts in this whole affair. I say, “IMPEACH THE IMPEACHERS.”


103 posted on 12/13/2019 9:45:53 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Flaming Conservative

Blackmail files on ‘vulnerable’ republicant seantors will prevent an airing of the dirtiest laundry of the DNC criminal cabal.


104 posted on 12/13/2019 9:45:55 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: CedarDave

I’ll be disappointed if Trump doesn’t win all 50 states followed by indictments and trials of those involved in these unconstitutional and illegal proceedings.


105 posted on 12/13/2019 9:47:36 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

Blatant sedition bordering on Treason is too difficult for demon rat voters to comprehend, so they will continue sending these seditionists back to Congress. Demon rats have engineered the level of stupidity in D voters and now depend upon it to sustain their seditions.


106 posted on 12/13/2019 9:54:57 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: southernindymom

Exactly Indymom- I hope that God exposes their abuses of power, corruption and disgusting hatred to the point that their party suffers loss of seats for decades to come as a result-

Someone on fox last night said “Their party is done for a good long time’ and I thought, I sure hope so!


107 posted on 12/13/2019 10:01:12 AM PST by Bob434
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To: WKUHilltopper

The (D) after their names had already done that.

The lies and outright malice for the rules of law and the House itself shows more than anything how desperate and evil this coven of political harridans is. Over and over again Nadler,Schiff,Pelosi, and their ignorant deranged troop of pus sucking brain dead feckless jackals spewed out senseless imaginings to suit the predetermined outcome of the kangaroo court.

The petulant children had their fun. Now it is the grown ups turn.


108 posted on 12/13/2019 10:02:12 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: jester221

SCOTUS is today considering shielding Trump taxes, Ginsburg is just getting out of the hospital, and may also participate, according to the news...


109 posted on 12/13/2019 10:05:07 AM PST by Rustybucket
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To: ducttape45

Even if a significant majority were informed, Nadler, Pelosi, et al will still get elected because their districts are gerrymandered.


110 posted on 12/13/2019 10:08:21 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: Mr. K

[REMEMBER: THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO WIN THE NEXT ELECTION

ANYTHING]

Correct


111 posted on 12/13/2019 10:14:18 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: The Pack Knight; xzins

The analogy to Wylie Coyote is apropos.

The Democrats have strapped on their ACME Impeachment Rocket Skates and have lit the fuse.

And here comes Donald “the road runner” Trump speeding down the road to Victory.

This is going to be delicious.


112 posted on 12/13/2019 10:18:47 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Jim W N

You are right. This is the Modern Version of the Inquisition.

Trump is being tried as a Heretic.

He has blasphemed the god of the Demonrats. .


113 posted on 12/13/2019 10:21:43 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Leep
Show down at high noon. Draw you lily liver’d sniveling rats!


114 posted on 12/13/2019 10:25:29 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: P-Marlowe

You got it.

They will lose, go down in flames, and hopefully many will be indicted and sentenced for their crimes.

At some point in a few decades, these scum will merge (more than they already have) with the Islamic Jihadists and together those who haven’t repented and turned to Jesus will usher in seven of the most unimaginably horrific years ever seen on earth. (We who are in Christ won’t be here, but we’ll be watching from Heaven’s mezzanine.)


115 posted on 12/13/2019 10:28:39 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

Bring it on so we can end the demwit party once and for all.


116 posted on 12/13/2019 10:29:36 AM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

Amen...... total destruction, that’s the ticket

No mercy, no quarter

For those that insist in “being nice”, no kumbaya


117 posted on 12/13/2019 10:31:01 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Jim W N

They are not Delusional. They are wicked, mean, evil, and perverts. They know and are aware of exactly what they are doing and why they are doing. The only ones being deluded are those who say that they are Delusional instead of wicked and evil.


118 posted on 12/13/2019 10:34:42 AM PST by sport
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To: sport

Wicked and evil does not cancel out delusional.


119 posted on 12/13/2019 10:40:07 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

After giving it more thought. You are right.


120 posted on 12/13/2019 10:42:14 AM PST by sport
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