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California universities using SAT for admissions are violating civil rights, lawsuit claims
CBS News ^ | December 10, 2019 | Li Cohen

Posted on 12/11/2019 3:23:31 AM PST by C19fan

The University of California is being sued for requiring incoming students to take the SAT and ACT. The lawsuit claims that the tests have a well-known "discriminatory effect" and "exacerbate the inequities" for underrepresented students.

The lawsuit says the University of California (UC) is legally obligated to provide equal access to all students. The SAT and ACT, the lawsuit says, "reflect demographic and socioeconomic characteristics like family income, parental education and race" instead of measuring "academic ability or mastery of curriculum." The College Board, the organization behind the SAT, released a 2019 assessment of the SAT/PSAT in California that found 45% of white students scored 1,200 or above, while 12% of Latinx students and 9% of Black students got the same score. Parental education levels were also directly related to student scores — only 21% of test-takers whose parents did not receive a high school diploma met SAT benchmarks while 77% of those whose parents have graduate degrees met benchmarks.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: college; intelligence; sat
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The irony is the SAT was originally created to identify intelligent students who were going to subpar schools.
1 posted on 12/11/2019 3:23:31 AM PST by C19fan
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Sounds like they have never heard that intelligence is a hereditary trait…
2 posted on 12/11/2019 3:26:37 AM PST by cartan
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Based on the same logic and arguments, requiring 2.0 or higher GPA to continue attending UC schools should be eliminated too. When the UC schools were using affirmative action, African-American admittances had a over 50% drop out rate much higher than white and Asian students.


3 posted on 12/11/2019 3:26:42 AM PST by C19fan
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And Asians score even higher. I also read that “blacks” from some places not in the US score very high as well.


4 posted on 12/11/2019 3:27:17 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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The SAT and ACT, the lawsuit says, "reflect demographic and socioeconomic characteristics like family income, parental education and race" instead of measuring "academic ability or mastery of curriculum."

True, I did take the SAT back in the 1970s. But I don't think it has changed much, other than to be dumbed down to reflect our declining K-12 education system. I do not remember any questions related to demographics, race, or socioeconomic status. Since the questions are related to mastery of knowledge, the lawsuit is utterly bogus.

Now, if those behind the lawsuit were genuinely concerned about the academic achievement of minorities, wouldn't they be suing the school districts that are failing to prepare students for college? To be fair, much of the academic failure in certain groups is cultural, but I don't know how one can sue a toxic culture for its role in making kids shun the behaviors that lead to success.

5 posted on 12/11/2019 3:39:37 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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Best engineers I have ever had the pleasure of working with were black, and from Ivory Coast, Trinidad, Cameroon, and Kenya. M.E.'s and E.E.'s.

The worst were young white males from California, Mississippi, and Tennessee. A young woman with not even a clue was let go from our company because she was dangerous. A year later her arm was caught in a machine process and had to be amputated.

6 posted on 12/11/2019 3:46:57 AM PST by blackdog
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Line everyone up against a wall and pick students by color. Once they flunk out after about a month, do it again. Some interesting stats should come from that.


7 posted on 12/11/2019 3:49:56 AM PST by Libloather (CHANGE CLIMATE CHANGE!)
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The abyss of stupidity has no bottom. This affirmative action concept, trying to create laws that correct past injustices by penalizing innocent people, is based on the principle that two wrongs make a right.

That is why you seldom see a white male in any government office.

I was in the post office yesterday. When I was a little kid, post offices were staffed by white males, mostly. Now, white males are long gone.


8 posted on 12/11/2019 3:55:17 AM PST by odawg
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What We Know, Are Still Getting Wrong, and Have Yet to Learn about the Relationships among the SAT, Intelligence and Achievement
https://www.mdpi.com/2079-3200/7/4/26/htm

From the Journal of Intelligence

Abstract: Fifteen years ago, Frey and Detterman established that the SAT (and later, with Koenig, the ACT) was substantially correlated with measures of general cognitive ability and could be used as a proxy measure for intelligence (Frey and Detterman, 2004; Koenig, Frey, and Detterman, 2008). Since that finding, replicated many times and cited extensively in the literature, myths about the SAT, intelligence, and academic achievement continue to spread in popular domains, online, and in some academic administrators. This paper reviews the available evidence about the relationships among the SAT, intelligence, and academic achievement, dispels common myths about the SAT, and points to promising future directions for research in the prediction of academic achievement.


9 posted on 12/11/2019 4:01:01 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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That’s a good point that plays a huge role in this: The earlier education is a farce, with social promotion and little learning. It was so bad that STEM was bastardized into “STEAM” - they threw “art” in there because they wanted to divert STEM program money towards people that could never participate in those fields, but would instead gravitate to a field where there is no such thing as a wrong answer: Art.


10 posted on 12/11/2019 4:08:03 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: C19fan

They just can’t destroy California fast enough.


11 posted on 12/11/2019 4:12:29 AM PST by cnsmom
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Build that wall....on Ca’s eastern border.


12 posted on 12/11/2019 5:22:37 AM PST by gibsonguy
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Let’s get rid of the pesky high school diploma thing too.
And free isn’t good enough. Students should be paid minimum wage. Or more.


13 posted on 12/11/2019 5:31:12 AM PST by sasquatch
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They have some crackhead on the radio trying to explain that High School Grades are what really counts. Here in Los Angeles 2/3rds of High School GRADUATES can NOT read, write or count above the 3rd grade level, not sure how it makes them College Ready??


14 posted on 12/11/2019 5:34:10 AM PST by eyeamok
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In the final days of the Roman Empire, as decadence and internal moral rot and decay finally destroyed Rome, virtually the entire population was illiterate.


15 posted on 12/11/2019 6:18:46 AM PST by Savage Beast (George Orwell's Nightmare is the Democrats' Dream!)
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‘”That is why you seldom see a white male in any government office”

The one white male head of the treasurers office at our courthouse is openly flaming gay.


16 posted on 12/11/2019 6:21:50 AM PST by setter
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“Sounds like they have never heard that intelligence is a hereditary trait”

I come from a family of b and c students, myself included. No real academic standouts.

My wife was her HS class valedictorian, tested out of her college chemistry and biology classes and was #1 in her veterinarian class.

Her dad and mom both had engineering degrees back in the 40’s.

My wifes brother was an engineer and also tested out of many of his college classes. All his kids are top of their HS classes as well and one has a full blown scholarship to Yale.

Yep genetic.


17 posted on 12/11/2019 6:27:48 AM PST by setter
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Further dumbing-down of higher education. Before long, any idiot can go to college, get a worthless degree and then live in their parents basement.....gg. Oh wait, that sh*t already happening......my bad. /s


18 posted on 12/11/2019 6:48:11 AM PST by cranked
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This is kind of funny. I work in DoD and our offices are still primarily male, especially in those offices which deploy. And all of this is primarily well educated, because smart people seem to get how to survive in those areas we deploy to. Stupid people don’t seem to last as long. Really overweight people really don’t last that long.

And at 60, I am really pushing the envelope for survivability out there. I think I am finally looking at a forced retirement from this field.


19 posted on 12/11/2019 6:57:57 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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I’m glad you had that experience. Mine was not the same.


20 posted on 12/11/2019 7:00:48 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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