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25 jail officers indicted, accused of using excessive force
Cumberland Times-News ^ | December 4, 2019 | MICHAEL KUNZELMAN

Posted on 12/04/2019 3:34:43 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie

BALTIMORE (AP) — More than two dozen correctional officers in Baltimore were charged Tuesday with using excessive force on prisoners at state-operated jails in a city plagued by decades of institutional corruption, inside and outside jailhouse walls.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: baltimore; elijahcummings; guards; lookwhohatescops; maryland; mayarockeymoore; prison
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I'm going to have to side with the guards. They are working with the lowest scum on earth. Who would want to work in a Baltimore penal institution? They are all lucky they haven't been shived.
1 posted on 12/04/2019 3:34:43 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
Dr. Clarissa Cole on After Hours AM April 17, 2019

(Start at 1:18:31)

Dr. Cole: He had an epiphany; he was going to become a cop!

Eric Olsen: Ha ha ha what??? Uh, so, wait a minute, he was told by a former employer, if you ever, you better never get a job where you have influence over others, an authority position, or I’ll do whatever it takes to stop you. So wouldn’t becoming a cop kinda give him the ultimate authority over people?

Dr. Cole: Well, you know, lucky for all these other people, he kept moving from county to county so they weren’t really, uh, yeah, it is the ultimate authority he was just moving around so people wouldn’t know what he was doing, and I think getting out of the teaching profession they didn’t know what he was going to do.

He eventually applied to the Broward County Police Unit; he was rejected, though, because he failed the psychological test.

Eric Olsen: Oh that’s it he’s out of the career. No career for him He’s obviously unstable…

Dr. Cole: One, you know what? One would think so, and I actually used to perform these psych tests, and oh, do I have stories! You would think that it would even, it’s supposed to, let me tell you how it’s supposed to work, it’s supposed to prevent you from getting a job as a police officer or a prison guard.

Eric Olsen: Sure.

Dr. Cole: Does that always occur?

Eric Olsen: I would hope that it does.

Dr. Cole: No, no, no, I would say 50% of the time.

Eric Olsen: What?

Dr. Cole: It’s supposed to be a be a requirement, a REQUIREMENT, if you don’t pass, if you are not psychologically fit, you are not supposed to become a police officer or a prison guard. Does that actually preclude you from becoming a police officer even as long ago as what, 2005? No, I was doing them in 2005. Half of the people I rejected still became a cop.

Eric Olsen: How does that happen? How do they get around this?

Dr. Cole: Oh God there so many ways

Eric Olsen: Is it a buddy, a dad?

Dr. Cole: My son, he’s the son of my buddy, his dad is a cop, he has to be a cop, he’s going to work in this county and we’re really understaffed, we need people, we know he failed, but it’s OK. The amount of excuses I heard to employ people.

And that’s the thing, just so the general public is aware, it’s difficult to fail, it’s difficult to fail one of these psychological…

Eric Olsen: What would cause one…

Dr. Cole: It’s not like the bar is so darned high that no one could pass, it’s nothing LIKE that, this test is just to find out is this person basically psychologically stable, are they non-sadistic, do they not have criminal or punishing tendencies or narcissistic tendencies themselves. Basically you’re trying to weed out anybody that has a like God complex; I’m judge, jury, and executioner. You want to get those people out of there. You’re trying to get people out of there that are just psychiatrically so unstable that they can’t control their emotions so, maybe some sort of bipolar thing going on or somebody that absolutely clearly has a personality disorder, like narcissistic personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder. They are not

Eric Olsen: Checks and balances. Checks and balances to protect the general public from somebody that would not do well in that position.

Dr. Cole: And I was very, yeah, I was extremely, forgiving on these psychological tests even when somebody would sort of hit sort of some of those marks on the tests we would give, I would ask in interviews I would ask a ton of questions just to be very, very sure that this person was indeed failing the psychological exam, and I did not fail that many people, but the people I failed, please believe me that it was for extremely good reasons, extremely good reasons, and half of them became cops anyway.

Eric Olsen: So when they‘d leave would they go to a different state and do it?

Dr. Cole: Hah no, they would get hired by different a county, like a couple minutes over usually. Somebody knew them and “Now let’s pick them up.” “No, no, no, he has really strong sadistic tendencies and fantasies of rape and murder, you really shouldn’t hire him” and they would. And that’s exactly, I hope it’s different that was like I said, this was in 2005, it scared the heck out of me and I said I would never have a career doing that I don’t want to know that those people are becoming officers.

Eric Olsen: Tell me it’s in the minority, though, that this happens.

Dr. Cole: It’s in the minority that people fail, the majority of people passed. But those that do fail, like I said it’s for very good reason, but half of them. Half of them got picked up. So no, it’s not a minority a full 50% got hired.

Eric Olsen: That is truly a scary number out there that 50% of...

Dr. Cole: It’s a small sample, a small sample that was in a place that was economically depressed and needed officers…

(End at 1:23:29)

2 posted on 12/04/2019 3:37:45 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

If the guards are to tough for them there’s always hanging, sure cuts down on the overhead.


3 posted on 12/04/2019 3:39:05 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Dusty Road

Q: What do Christmas ornaments, drywall, and Jeffrey Epstein have in common?

A: All three don’t hang themselves.


4 posted on 12/04/2019 3:50:50 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Free all Prisoners NOW ( sarc.)


5 posted on 12/04/2019 3:58:11 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I wonder if anything is going to be done to those guards who scalded some guy to death in the jail shower.

What a horrifically painful, slow way to die.


6 posted on 12/04/2019 4:25:41 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I couldn’t do that job in a million years. I would get too ticked off. Not at the prisoners, but seeing who is in the jail and who is not in the jail. Some black kid who couldn’t afford a lawyer doing 20 years for a 1st time drug offense while Hillary walks free? That would drive me nuts.


7 posted on 12/04/2019 4:26:31 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing about liberals.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
First job I took after retiring from the Army was as a jailer at Bell County Jail, near Ft Hood. I lasted just past my 90 day probation period, realized real quick Corrections wasn't for me. Fellow Jailers had as much to do with that decision as inmates.

Some saw it as their duty to make inmates as miserable as possible. Some were weak and let inmates walk all over them.

If you tried to be middle of the road half the inmates saw you as antagonizing, the other half as weak.

8 posted on 12/04/2019 4:29:20 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: null and void; Squantos; sit-rep

Way back when I took the police psychological examination, the doctor asked me “What is the definition of wasted space.” I replied, “A busload of lawyers going over a cliff with three empty seats.”

He smiled and stamped my application “Approved.”


9 posted on 12/04/2019 4:36:05 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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Some black kid who couldn’t afford a lawyer doing 20 years for a 1st time drug offense

Yea, that happens.

What are ya, Black Lives Matter?

#CantJustMakeUpStuff


10 posted on 12/04/2019 5:06:48 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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“Yea, that happens.

What are ya, Black Lives Matter?

#CantJustMakeUpStuff”

I know right. How do people STILL believe these asinine Television tropes? You have to have a wrap sheet six miles long before you ever see any kind of jail time.


11 posted on 12/04/2019 5:15:08 AM PST by The Toll
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I took that test a few times in my life and it seemed like it was looking for consistency. It asked the same question multiple times in different ways. I worked in corrections for 20 years. The inmates were never the problem, the prison politics were a big problem. They only promoted the people who played their game. Most were idiots.


12 posted on 12/04/2019 5:22:00 AM PST by Rdct29 (Democrats are the new Nazi's. They think they deserve total control over the people)
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[I’m going to have to side with the guards. They are working with the lowest scum on earth. Who would want to work in a Baltimore penal institution? They are all lucky they haven’t been shived. ]


Based on my admittedly slight knowledge of corrupt guards, it would not surprise me if they not only give dangerous inmates a wide berth, they let them run the prison. Even in the controlled environment of a prison, guards can be ambushed and seriously injured, or worse. Dangerous inmates can also, through people they know on the outside, inflict harm on the guards’ families. This was true even in Soviet gulags, where prisoners could be surreptitiously killed without official repercussions.


13 posted on 12/04/2019 6:48:15 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Coincidentally, all 25 of these guards were on duty and assigned to Jeffrey Epstein the night he “hung himself.”


14 posted on 12/04/2019 6:54:46 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I’m going to have to side with the 8th Amendment to the Constitution.


15 posted on 12/04/2019 7:02:50 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: metmom

I think some jail guards are sadists. I could never do that job. Who would enjoy their work of locking people up? I realize that society has to punish criminals. However psychologically I don’t think most people would enjoy that line of work.


16 posted on 12/04/2019 9:33:20 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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#7: "I would get too ticked off. Not at the prisoners, but seeing who is in the jail and who is not in the jail. Some black kid who couldn’t afford a lawyer doing 20 years for a 1st time drug offense while Hillary walks free?"

Amen to all that. Well said. Imagine if Donald Trump and deleted 30,000 emails and smashed his official phone with a hammer. Adam Schiff would be orgasming in his pants.

17 posted on 12/04/2019 9:39:27 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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#15: I’m going to have to side with the 8th Amendment to the Constitution.

Yes. good point. Thanks for bringing that up. Thank God for our Constitution.
 

18 posted on 12/04/2019 9:43:08 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I probably have to agree.

I have a cousin who was a jail guard and she was one tough cookie.


19 posted on 12/04/2019 12:04:32 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Larry Lucido

I accidentally (honest) parked my cruiser on a suspects arm . I knocked him down with my bumper as he was trying to flee the scene. .... I had to see the risk manager the next day . Told him the suspect had complained about me placing cuffs on him too tight a few weeks before ...... I got a grin and was back to work .


20 posted on 12/04/2019 4:15:49 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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