Posted on 12/02/2019 6:00:45 PM PST by Kaslin
You are correct. Trump and the bill are wrong.
Trump is great in many ways. But far, far from perfect domestic policy-wise. Especially in regard to the 10th. Recall his horrendous behavior regarding Trump/Ryan-Care. Essentially another legislative crush video with Freedom under DC's highest honored heels.
Even at a site called FreeRepublic folks easily fall into the trap of debating who hates a bad thing more than you do - crush videos, for example. Without acknowledging that, obviously, this should not be a central govt matter. Same for murder, drug abuse, etc.
Assuming that a problem can't be solved unless the solution involves the remote central govt, who we all here agree to be uncontrollably bungling and intentionally unfair, is an emotional response. Not a logical or constitutional bit of reasoning.
Are we to assume that folks in favor of this heavy and ripe-for-abuse approach believe their individual states would give a thumbs up to crush videos? That seems unlikely. Either way, it would be an issue to address within state or lower govt.
There is zero chance this wrong-headed but theoretically well-intentioned 'act' will NOT be thoroughly distorted and weaponized down the road. Like nearly every bipartisan act.
Can I help?
You’re actually correct. Serial killers start with animals.
In West Virginia, we don’t use BB guns for feral cats and we follow the rules (SSS - Shoot, Shut Up, and Shovel.)
Damn, I boil and eat 1000’s of crawfish every year. Does that make me a mass murderer?
??????? What a pile of crap of an article....those who commit some of the most heinous crimes against other humans often started with animals....
Well done, The actual words count because so many laws have been written that are way too open for interpretation. But it is important that there is not also verbiage in there that nullifies even these written protections with “unless”. Ca does that, they add “protection” language and then somewhere else in the very same law they take those back away in some form. Sneaky stuff with the wording.
Sounds good to me!
The NEXT bill will allow unborn HUMANS to have the same protection!
Ask any fella that has tried to keep three; uh; cats in play at one time.
It can be quite a dangerous pastime if you drop one!
Peel them away from the pack; one at a time...
Yes, I'll need help with some of the heavy equipment. God, how I hate these people. There is no limit to my hatred.
Nah that ain’t cruelty. Their invading your property and they’ll survive the shot and maybe not be so snoopy in the future and you might have saved their lives because of that
This law should be used to stop institutionalized animal cruelty in kill shelters that are supported by the ASPCA, BESTFRIENDS, PETA, and HSUS. There is no humane euthanazia of healthy, adoptables kittens, puppies, dogs, cats, etc.
Any and every law can be subjected to abuse or unattended consequences. Basically this is a good law. Any attempts to tie it to stop hunting, etc, is wrong and against the intent of this law and should be fought in court and the ballot box.
Perhaps the hunting industry should have become involved in formulating this law. Or they can legislate a corollary or addendum to narrow the scope.
Reading legislation can be tricky. It is not a skill everyone has. Writing it and then inserting it into existing law can result in just the sneaky stuff you mention.
Poorly written laws are what given unelected functionaries too much power. They get to decide how the law is to be implemented and (unless challenged) its intention and even interpretation. It is not unusual to find contradictions in what the law reads and how an agency having the rule making authority implements it. And guess where the fun lands. On Joe Q. Public.
“IN GENERAL.—This section does not apply with regard to any conduct, or a visual depiction of that conduct, that is— ‘‘(A) a customary and normal veterinary, agricultural husbandry, or other animal management practice; ‘‘(B) the slaughter of animals for food; ‘‘(C) hunting, trapping, fishing, a sporting activity not otherwise prohibited by Federal law, predator control, or pest control; ‘‘(D) medical or scientific research; ‘‘(E) necessary to protect the life or property of a per-son; or ‘‘(F) performed as part of euthanizing an animal.”
“IN GENERAL.—This section does not apply with regard to any conduct, or a visual depiction of that conduct, that is— ‘‘(A) a customary and normal veterinary, agricultural husbandry, or other animal management practice; ‘‘(B) the slaughter of animals for food; ‘‘(C) hunting, trapping, fishing, a sporting activity not otherwise prohibited by Federal law, predator control, or pest control; ‘‘(D) medical or scientific research; ‘‘(E) necessary to protect the life or property of a per-son; or ‘‘(F) performed as part of euthanizing an animal.”
Thanks! As I read that, there are two justifications for me plugging cats with my BB gun:
It’s an animal management practice, and/or
It’s pest control
Time to pump that sucker up!
You can also do so if they are harassing or threatening your livestock.
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