Posted on 12/02/2019 6:00:45 PM PST by Kaslin
I’m the only livestock on this ranch.
Absolutely, they can be too broad and vague as to targeted intent. My own education with this began when I started my first business in Ca. Using purposeful wording, once you get a commercial business license in Ca. they own you in one way or another through laws and regulations. You had better do very extensive homework and understand the laws and regulations that might affect your particular situation front to back with out a doubt.
Example, I was in the auto/truck service business and once got a ticket on a vehicle that was sitting inside my shop being worked on. The ticket was for “operating an expired vehicle on or near a highway” because the tags had expired. In this wording the one word “near” makes the law completely open ended and totally up to the officer’s discretion as to what “near” means. It means ANYWHERE they want, even if it is not being “operated” and on private property inside an open repair shop unless “non-operation” fees and permit have been purchased for the vehicle.
I have been fortunate enough to have gone to court with different Ca agencies many times over the years because of the broad wording of laws and regulations that do not pinpoint detailed definition and are open ended. And there is no way to win, If you are not in violation of one they have one that they can claim you are indeed violating because of broad language. It’s a scam...
And you are being harassed, are you not.
I totally agree. My old job was to make sure building plans complied with codes and I also did inspections. “Go by the written” was a concept I had to explain to my co-workers. The building official supported me so that helped. He also allowed common sense to play a part- I know, who would believe it? Going beyond the obvious would get you reined in very quickly.
In a incident similar to yours I had a lady come into the department telling me she needed a permit to screen over her garbage cans which were behind a fence. I turned her away because I could not believe code-enforcement required this and she may have misunderstood. Nope. The code read that garbage cans had to be in an enclosed area unless out for pick up. Behind a fence out of view was not enough. But if she added a screen they would be o.k. Well what to do? I asked my boss if we could just issue her a permit for $1.00. We did and code enforcement was happy. But really- that poor lady being put through such nonsense.
I see in your case the officer ignored the whole “operating” part of that ordinance.
“IN GENERAL.—This section does not apply with regard to ...”
I am not really interested in the language of the bill.
I mainly just point out that it is being imposed by the most wrong level of govt. The feds should have no role here.
And, yes, regardless the level of govt, it is a quite safe bet that even the most well-intended/crafted language will be later changed, bureaucrat-interpreted, adjudicated and weaponized.
Oh yes, code enforcement and ignorant codes were my worst enemy. It was a never ending process, about the time I went through a lot of time, effort, and cost “educating” the officers themselves, such as the difference in codes that apply or do not apply to residential, agricultural, and commercial zoning they get transferred and I had to start all over again with a new one.
Again the new one would start off writing violations of residential zone codes against commercial zoned property where they do not legally apply. They didn’t even understand the difference and it just went right over their heads and I would be in court again when it should have never been written in the first place. I had to keep every new year’s codes handy like a bible all the time to ward off the evil. lol
They do not even educate their own officials and they don’t care at all how much time, effort, and expense it costs the public. And because they don’t even truly understand the very laws they are supposed to enforce they just make up their own laws. And then the authoritarian complex makes them Gods with absolutely no appeal process and you have to sue them just to prove they are wrong.
“I see in your case the officer ignored the whole “operating” part of that ordinance.”
Actually it gets even worse, just as their legal definition of the word “near” a highway is very very broad so is their definition of “operating a motor vehicle”. Basically if the keys to the vehicle are available then it can be legally deemed as being operational therefore equal to being operated. They are always written to assume you are guilty of operating it just because it happens to be operational and you have the keys available.
Even if they didn’t “catch you in the act”, just because you “can or might have” makes you guilty of it. They are now arresting folks for drunk driving just because the keys were available in the house and you happened to be drinking while you were working on your car in your own driveway. Just because you “could have/maybe” makes you guilty of doing it. It is all really getting out of hand. No longer can a person maintain a reasonable status of being “a law abiding citizen”, it is now almost impossible if they enforced all the broad language.
Yep. Re DUI. In days of old it was not uncommon for an officer to come across a parked car with a guy who had obviously parked because he knew he should not be driving. The solution was often the cop would take the keys and toss them. That way the guy could not drive off and finding the keys in a drunk state was not going to happen. Parked car-good. Now even being parked (because you know to drive would be a great no-no) keys in ignition or not= DUI arrest.
Since this legislation is in direct response to a SCOTUS ruling it certainly warrants such.
Ayn Rand comes to mind.
Well, there goes the commercial beef, pork and poultry industry...
All targets to the inevitable Fedzilla Department of Animal Rights.
Read the bill.
Amen. People who would do such things for fun have no place among civilized peoples.
Trump is right once again.
I never knew of this fad.....in fact, I wish I didn’t.
The pythons in Florida are completely out of control. The state has been paying python hunters to find them & eradicate them.
Will this bill end all of that???
How about coyotes & wolves that are causing ranchers massive losses???
who cares
Who is against animal torture?
NOPE! One smack- dead rat.
No torture involved.
Happy wife happy life. This has Melania written all over it.
Just like the ban on fake cigarettes.
Humans are the worst creatures of the nature, by far.
I love people.. even though 95% piss me off..
Sorry, but Animals are better than people!
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