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These teachers say they’re telling ‘true story’ of Thanksgiving. Some critics disagree.
News & Observer ^ | November 25, 2019 | T. Keung Hui

Posted on 11/26/2019 1:01:07 PM PST by Perseverando

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To: Perseverando

The true story: Before the Pilgrims went west across the ocean Squanto went east, converted to Catholicism in Spain and then went to England and then back home.

The Pilgrims practiced Socialism. It failed miserably. They almost starved to death, if not for the Native Americans led by Squanto.

The Pilgrims switched from Socialism to Capitalism and thrived with much extra food to share. The Protestant Pilgrims were as thankful to the Catholic Squanto and the Native Americans as they were to God for their bounty and for surviving their first year of failure.

Isn’t that the historically accurate nut shell?


41 posted on 11/26/2019 5:28:06 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: Perseverando

Social studies has replaced history and civics and should be discontinued NOW !


42 posted on 11/26/2019 6:36:57 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true..)
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To: TStro

What saved the Pilgrims was they abandoned the “commune” lifestyle, sharing the labor to plant and harvest. The lazy ones didn’t work, and they almost starved. They then divided the land and each had to produce his/her own food. Then they prospered. Test of Socialism. Big fail.


Yes, that is the true story. The Pilgrims corrected their experiment in socialism and gave each person or family their own land to work. Under the shared commune lifestyle the lazy did not work and brought down the workers.

As an experiment in socialism it did demonstrate on a small scale what happens when socialism overcomes a nation and the workers cannot provide for the takers.


43 posted on 11/26/2019 6:53:00 PM PST by angry elephant (My MAGA cap is from a rally in Washingon state in May 2016)
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“I don’t care, I just like turkey.”

I like cod, which is quite possibly (and historically) what the pilgrims ate.


44 posted on 11/26/2019 7:14:41 PM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: PGR88
... I bet the Indians wish they had really good border security, did not have open borders, were not fighting each other all the time, and were able to clearly know who they were letting into "their" land.

Let's add that the Indians wish they had modern arms and that they would have fought to the death before allowing anyone to disarm them.

45 posted on 11/26/2019 10:21:15 PM PST by William Tell
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To: Revolutionary

There were several French & Indian Wars (though they fought on both sides), and plenty of Indians fought for Britain in the American Revolution.


46 posted on 11/27/2019 3:04:09 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Perseverando

I’ll bet she woke up in a warm bed in a nice house and not a teepee. Such hypocrites all.


47 posted on 11/27/2019 6:26:43 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Portcall24

Really.

And she uses modern medicine, drives an automobile, uses an airline for travel, uses hot and cold running water, uses modern plumbing, has a flushing toilet, well, you get the point.

Perhaps it is time that she be told that if she hates white people that badly then stop using any and all goods, services, and products that were invented, developed by, or improved upon by white people.

It would be a hoot just to see her reaction.


48 posted on 11/27/2019 2:51:19 PM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: KrisKrinkle
So, she’s saying the people who were already there died because they welcomed or at least didn’t or couldn’t fight off invaders from outside.

Perhaps there is something for children to learn from that.

LOL - Good one!

49 posted on 12/01/2019 8:07:31 AM PST by GOPJ (UN-elected bureaucrats steal power and taxpayer dollars - they belong in prison.)
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To: Perseverando

What we’ve all been taught is a part of the history: The Pilgrims came, they almost starved, the Indians taught them how to survive, and they had a big feast. All true. But it’s the tip of the iceberg.

The Puritans were being persecuted in Britain by the Church of England. They decided to get out. They first went to the Netherlands. After several years there, they decided to go to the New World for religious liberty.

They found some sponsors for their journey, who made William Bradford, their leader, sign a contract. It provided that every Pilgrim would get one share in a common store and they would all work for the community. (They would own nothing and be happy.)

They arrived at Plymouth Rock in 1620. Between the journey and that harsh first winter, about 44 of the original 100 settlers died. Including Governor Bradford’s wife.

The Native Americans taught them how to plant corn and fish, but according to Governor Bradford’s notes, even the most industrious didn’t work very hard at it. After all, why work so hard when you’re only going to get the same amount as the ones who don’t? Why expend all that effort for other people’s families when they’re not willing to expend the effort for themselves? So Governor Bradford changed the system.

Bradford assigned each family a plot of land and told them to work it as they saw fit, and they could keep the proceeds or trade it or sell it or give it away, if they chose. (Does this sound familiar?)

Well, they thrived. They produced an abundance of food and goods. Probably more than they could figure out what to do with. In gratitude to God, they had a big community feast to use and share all they had produced, and they invited the Indigenous to thank them for their help (and as a gesture of friendship.)

The original system in which everyone worked for the collective failed. It almost starved them to death. The new system, which incentivized producing as much as you wanted, produced an abundance they had to share.

Accordingly, one of the things I am grateful for today is Governor Bradford’s decision to abandon the failing collectivism of the original Compact and adopt a system based on incentive, which gave rise to an abundance we still enjoy.


50 posted on 11/23/2023 7:09:33 PM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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