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These teachers say they’re telling ‘true story’ of Thanksgiving. Some critics disagree.
News & Observer ^ | November 25, 2019 | T. Keung Hui

Posted on 11/26/2019 1:01:07 PM PST by Perseverando

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To: Perseverando

So, she’s saying the people who were already there died because they welcomed or at least didn’t or couldn’t fight off invaders from outside.

Perhaps there is something for children to learn from that.

21 posted on 11/26/2019 1:39:37 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Perseverando
Behold, the Noble Savage, who never suffered enslavement, murder, or rape until the white man showed up.

Native American groups often enslaved war captives whom they primarily used for small-scale labor.[1][2] Others however would stake themselves in gambling situations when they had nothing else which would put them into servitude for a short time in some cases for life; captives were also sometimes tortured as part of religious rites, and these sometimes involved ritual cannibalism.[1][4] During times of famine some Native Americans would also temporarily sell their children to obtain food.[1]...

22 posted on 11/26/2019 1:40:46 PM PST by seowulf
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To: TStro

That is true, but before William Bradford convinced them to drop the “commune” approach, the American Indians gave the Pilgrims knowledge in planting, hunting and harvesting...

Most of the Pilgrims were not farmers and had little to no experience in those fields...

23 posted on 11/26/2019 1:43:25 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: JBW1949

The best movie most historically accurate portrayal I have seen of the Thanksgiving story is “Saints & Strangers”.

24 posted on 11/26/2019 1:48:18 PM PST by Reily
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To: Perseverando

The Pilgrims and subsequent colonial Puritans believed in designated days of thanksgiving to thank God for His blessings, as well as days of fasting to ask God for his forgiveness and mercy. These were proclaimed by their governors. This was later reflected in the Thanksgiving proclamations issued by our presidents, first by President Wahington, and then by President Lincoln and subsequent presidents.

It is a specifically religious action by the leaders of our country (which of course would be denied by all the present progressives as a violation of “separation of church and state”). This continued up until Barack Obama, who stripped God from the proclamation and made it a secular proclamation. Trump restored God to the proclamations.

25 posted on 11/26/2019 1:49:47 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: JBW1949

You both have great posts. Kinda points towards a bumper sticker, “Socialism: Failing since the time of the Pilgrims.”

26 posted on 11/26/2019 2:01:35 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: PGR88

>>The “story” perhaps then is, Keisha, that I bet the Indians wish they had really good border security, did not have open borders, were not fighting each other all the time, and were able to clearly know who they were letting into “their” land.<<

Ding, ding. We have a winner.

27 posted on 11/26/2019 2:03:07 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: 4yearlurker

Were the different dates centered around the local harvest times?

28 posted on 11/26/2019 2:04:02 PM PST by CJ Wolf (-Please forgive my misspellings, as I forgive those that misspell around me.)
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To: Perseverando

Why don’t they just stick to William Bradfords Diary if they really want the truth, Thanksgiving is a Celebration of the END of Communism in the United States.

29 posted on 11/26/2019 2:11:33 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: vpintheak

+. Thank you!

30 posted on 11/26/2019 2:14:48 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Ginsberg didn't kill herself.)
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To: Perseverando

Limbaugh’s fathers story is cool.

31 posted on 11/26/2019 2:32:54 PM PST by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: Perseverando

Happy National Genocide (Thanksgiving) Day!

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Thanksgiving has never been a celebratory holiday in my family. Whenever my family did cook we always gave thanks that all the Native Americans weren’t wiped out when Columbus “discovered” America. I never understood why my family was so against Thanksgiving. In school we drew turkeys with our hands and it was a happy time. It meant a couple of days off from school. My teachers made it seem like Thanksgiving was a holiday to look forward to. The New York City public education system told me what Thanksgiving was all about. I was very careful to regurgitate what they taught me when tested so I wouldn’t get a failing grade. When I was older though I was told the truth by my family.

My great, great, great, great grandfather was a part of a band of Black Indians in Florida, hence my unique and Native American-sounding last name. It seems I come from a long line of warriors and activists. I am a revolutionary not by choice but by lineage. When I did finally learn, there was no stopping me. Whenever someone asked what I was doing for Thanksgiving I proudly stated that I no longer celebrate it. Thanksgiving day should be known as National Land Theft and American Genocide Day.

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I learned that in 1637 the body of a white man was discovered dead in a boat. Armed settlers — which we tell our children were God fearing, gentle, sharing, kind Pilgrims — invaded a Pequot village. They also set the village, which included many children, on fire. Those who were lucky enough to escape the fire were systematically sought, hunted down and killed. While many, including historians, still debate what exactly happened this day, also known as the Pequot Massacre, it directly led to the creation of “Thanksgiving Day.” This is what the governor of Bay Colony had to say days after the massacre, “A day of thanksgiving. Thanking God that they had eliminated over 700 men, women and children.”

William B. Newell, a Penobscot Indian and former chairman of the Anthropology Department at the University of Connecticut stated, “Gathered in this place of meeting, they were attacked by mercenaries and English and Dutch. The Indians were ordered from the building and as they came forth were shot down, The rest were burned alive in the building. The very next day the governor declared a Thanksgiving Day. For the next 100 years, every Thanksgiving Day ordained by a Governor was in honor of the bloody victory, thanking God that the battle had been won.”

When I finally found out the origins of Thanksgiving it made me nauseous. Never again will I celebrate a holiday I know nothing about until I investigate its origins. I am very thankful, pun intended, that I learned about the origins of this holiday. It is a reminder that history can be rewritten and if told enough times eventually becomes the truth!

People always tell me to forget the past. I should just let it go and move on. Why do people of color always have to forget?! Would you tell a Jewish person to forget about the holocaust and just move on?! Would you tell the family of those who lost their lives on 9/11 to just forget about it?! So why are our tragedies forgettable and others are not?! I WILL NEVER forget! I will ALWAYS honor those who lost their lives unjustifiable.

So when you sit down to dinner this year, look at your family, serve the food and tell each other what you are most thankful for, think about the origins of Thanksgiving. Think about the countless Native Americans who lost their lives so you can carve a turkey and get the best deals on Black Friday. Say a prayer for them, especially the children, who died simply because of the color of their skin.

32 posted on 11/26/2019 2:33:14 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Reily

That was a good series, not seeing that it will re-run this year.

Proud to say I descend from both, John Alden a “stranger” as part of the crew and Priscilla Mullins a “saint”, both her parents William and Alice and her brother died the first winter.

33 posted on 11/26/2019 2:36:12 PM PST by Sparky1776
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To: Perseverando
How did trannies get excluded from Keisha's story of Thanksgiving?

Way, to go Keisha, you bigoted, exclusionist ass.

34 posted on 11/26/2019 2:38:29 PM PST by SIDENET (ISAIAH 5:20)
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To: Perseverando

The Indians fought against the colonies and the U.S. in two wars. French and Indian plus the war of 1812. After being so nice to them.

35 posted on 11/26/2019 3:00:35 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: elcid1970

Lincoln declared it the last Thursday of the month. FDR changed it to the Thursday before the last one of the month if , I believe, it fails on Nov 30.

It’s the 4th Thursday this year.

36 posted on 11/26/2019 3:27:53 PM PST by Fledermaus (I don't trust Barr, Durham, Horowitz or McConnell.)
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I’m old enough to remember when I could go a whole day without reading or hearing the word “Keisha.”

37 posted on 11/26/2019 3:35:13 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Give me a cheeseburger and fries. A proper supreme pizza would suffice.

Never cared for turkey and the rest of the traditional fare.

38 posted on 11/26/2019 3:36:39 PM PST by wally_bert (Your methods were a little incomplete, you too for that matter.)
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To: Perseverando
"Have a wonderful good old fashioned traditional American Thanksgiving with your friends and families. And give thanks to God for his wonderful gift of His Son, for freedom and for the shining light on a hill called America!"


39 posted on 11/26/2019 3:51:46 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait do it today.)
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40 posted on 11/26/2019 4:05:36 PM PST by GCFADG (Pardon me.)
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