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Is Macron Right? Is NATO, 70, Brain Dead?
Townhall.com ^ | November 26, 2019 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 11/26/2019 6:57:37 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: 6ppc

“More important would France and Germany support the US if we were attacked by Russia or China? I doubt it.”

Not a chance


21 posted on 11/26/2019 8:03:51 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Kaslin

Macron now openly questions the U.S. commitment to fight for Europe”

Please do!

If you people were putting serious time and money into your own forces, you wouldn’t need us.

110 years ago you didn’t.


22 posted on 11/26/2019 8:14:14 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Kaslin
ordered the U.S. forces out of his way as he invaded northern Syria, killing Kurdish fighters who did the bleeding and dying in the U.S.-led campaign to crush the ISIS caliphate

That's the narrative.

23 posted on 11/26/2019 8:22:53 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: Mariner

After the USSR imploded, NATO went looking for a reason to exist. The Russian army today is roughly 10% of the size of the one when the wall fell.
NATO is an immense jobs program for the bureaucrats the EU loves to churn out. There are 4000 people working at NATO HQ. WE pay their salaries. Their main function is to funnel US dollars into countless other projects. Ukraine is probably a good example.

NATO does nothing but waste US money.
(in millions)
United States 730,149
United Kingdom 60,376
Germany 54,113
France 50,659
Italy 24,482
Canada 21,885
Turkey 13,919
Spain 13,156
Netherlands 12,419
Poland 11,971
Norway 7,179
Romania 5,043
Belgium 4,921

We pay almost twice as much as all the other members combined. They are no longer the impoverished nations smoking after WWII. The main enemy is gone. And the other purpose is keeping a problem from arising in Germany.But we and all of Europe support islam pouring in by the millions. So what the hell is nato for?


24 posted on 11/26/2019 8:23:44 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Kaslin

Nato ceased to be functional in 1973.


25 posted on 11/26/2019 8:28:18 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: MrEdd

Or 1974, when Turkey invaded Cyprus.


26 posted on 11/26/2019 8:29:17 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: txrefugee

Dead wrong.
We told them that last year.
This year we should keep our word.


27 posted on 11/26/2019 8:30:31 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Jolla

There you have it.

After the monarchies were killed, Europe has been free from war for 75 years or so. The Europeans are deprived of genetically capable warriors.

Nato is no longer a force. America is the force


28 posted on 11/26/2019 8:30:57 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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Remember when all of our NATO allies were falling all over themselves to come to our aid on September 12, 2001?

I don’t either.


29 posted on 11/26/2019 9:11:06 AM PST by seowulf
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
”Why do you Americans always stay where you are not wanted!” Brutal!

But on pointe.

30 posted on 11/26/2019 9:51:14 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: bert

I was stationed at Geilenkirchen NATO Air Base for four years. NATO AWACS. Fantastic assignment with all (not France) NATO members present. I ran the “Field Registration Station” (car registration and licensing), and the member nations except Netherlands and Germany, were authorized to use our station for their cars. They used it as a way of buying tax free cars, registering tax-free vehicles through US offices, and then taking those new cars and selling them back home at hugely increased prices. I tried to put a stop to it, but was told to follow the Memorandum of Understanding with the other nations, and then shut up and color. That assignment was a definite money-maker for Italian, Turkish, and Greek forces! It was not unusual for them to register at least 20 new cars a year.


31 posted on 11/26/2019 10:00:53 AM PST by USAF1985 (ItÂ’s the Spanish Inquisition!!!!!)
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Yup. NATO is an anachronism in a modern age. Bloated, wasteful, purposeless. We should pull all our troops and resources out of Europe and leave the place to itself. They hate us anyway.
32 posted on 11/26/2019 11:32:25 AM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Why is Turkey in NATO?


33 posted on 11/26/2019 11:35:48 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Turkey is in NATO, buying military equipment from Russia instead of the US. With friends like that ...


34 posted on 11/26/2019 11:47:24 AM PST by Inkie
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Thanks for this info: “Turkey is in NATO, buying military equipment from Russia instead of the US. With friends like that ...”

With allies like this we don’t need enemies.


35 posted on 11/26/2019 12:06:12 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Nanzi Pelosi Thinks/Says Americans Are Too STUPID To Elect Their President! Time for #DCEXIT!)
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To: Grampa Dave

The Armenian genocide did happen but we deny it officially. The truth will set you free.


36 posted on 11/26/2019 1:05:00 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

37 posted on 11/27/2019 7:10:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: seowulf

A third of the troop deaths in Afghanistan were from US allies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghanistan


38 posted on 11/29/2019 8:05:49 AM PST by Krosan
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