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'Coup' Concerns Suddenly Don't Seem So Far-fetched
Townhall.com ^ | November 21, 2019 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 11/21/2019 5:05:47 AM PST by Kaslin

For most of the last three years, Donald Trump's critics have scoffed at supposed "conspiracy theories" that claimed a "deep state" of bureaucrats were aborting the Trump presidency. We have been told the word "coup" is hyperbole that reveals the paranoid minds of Trump supporters.

Yet oddly, many people brag that they are proud members of a deep state and occasionally boast about the idea of a coup.

Recently, former acting CIA chief John McLaughlin proclaimed in a public forum, "Thank God for the deep state." Former CIA director John Brennan agreed and praised the "deep state people" for their opposition to Trump.

Far from denying the danger of an unelected careerist bureaucracy that seeks to overturn presidential policies, New York Times columnists have praised its efforts to nullify the Trump agenda.

On the first day of the impeachment inquiry, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff called his initial two witnesses, career State Department diplomats William Taylor Jr. and George Kent. Far from providing damning evidence of criminal presidential behavior, Taylor and Kent mostly confined themselves to three topics: their own sterling resumes, their lack of any firsthand knowledge of incriminating Trump action, and their poorly hidden disgust with the manner and substance of Trump's foreign policy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: coup; deepstate; presidenttrump; resistance; vdh; victordavishanson
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1 posted on 11/21/2019 5:05:47 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

A Lt Col in the White House seemed to think he was running our foreign policy with Ukraine. That’s Deep State if anything is.

Doubts about a coup? It’s been one thing after another for over 3 years. They want to bring President Trump down and they don’t care how they do it.

As Don Lemon might say, “You have to be mental not to see it.”


2 posted on 11/21/2019 5:09:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

3 posted on 11/21/2019 5:15:21 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

Hillary thought there was a right wing conspiracy against her husband so she created her left wing deep state.


4 posted on 11/21/2019 5:27:00 AM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!me tking public being de)
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To: Kaslin
I read somewhere (sorry, honestly don't remember where) that the idea of removing the VP has been floated too. Something like if they ever succeed in impeaching the President (via lies, perjury, etc.) "the plan" would be to immediately implicate the VP as an accessory and impeach him virtually overnight. The intended effect would be to remove the President and VP simultaneously, before the VP could be "promoted" and name a VP. That would make the Speaker of the House President...

That plan is a bloodless coup, plain and simple. They are trying to remove a duly elected President who is both very effective and whose policies run counter to their politics. In a just world there would be a no-excrement investigation into the leftist democrats attempts at this obvious coup. I don't think it would be beyond reason to ultimately hold a trial and stand them up against a wall.

5 posted on 11/21/2019 5:28:12 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: dila813

“Vast RightWing
Conspiracy!”
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Cankles.


6 posted on 11/21/2019 5:29:26 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Kaslin

Once a Military man in Uniform attacked the President (and the Army offered to protect him) we had a hard coup.


7 posted on 11/21/2019 5:31:41 AM PST by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind blows too much)
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To: Kaslin

No sooner did the Mueller Report and the Russian collusion accusation go nowhere, this Ukraine quid pro quo story got ginned up. Joe and Hunter Biden’s activities DO need to be investigated.


8 posted on 11/21/2019 5:35:29 AM PST by Cecily
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To: ThunderSleeps

Of course they want to remove him too, and some of them are even Republicans


9 posted on 11/21/2019 5:35:35 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: MattMusson

“Once a Military man in Uniform attacked the President (and the Army offered to protect him) we had a hard coup.”

Yep. And if these seditionists escape the noose this country is lost forever.


10 posted on 11/21/2019 5:37:47 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: ClearCase_guy

There has been no coup. There is no coup. A coup by the very definition of the word is a “strike” i.e. a rapid takeover of the institutions of government while deposing the leaders of the de jure government. Coups do not take three years and counting. A coup happens in generally hours and always involves an armed force and seizure of government facilities and communications.So this all is NOT A COUP!


11 posted on 11/21/2019 5:39:00 AM PST by arthurus (u-yk_,,|||///\\\)
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To: arthurus

Imagine my relief. I’ll sleep easier tonight.


12 posted on 11/21/2019 5:41:56 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: ThunderSleeps

We would have a bloody war before that happens.


13 posted on 11/21/2019 5:43:05 AM PST by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

A Lt Col in the White House seemed to think he was running our foreign policy with Ukraine. That’s Deep State if anything is.


The big problem is it isn’t just a light colonel we are talking about here. Apparently, his entire chain of command all the way up to the CSA thinks his behavior is proper. That is a huge red flag. High ranking heads need to roll in the Pentagon over this. Period.


14 posted on 11/21/2019 5:43:16 AM PST by lodi90
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There has been no coup. There is no coup.

Seriously?

What do you call the 3+ year effort (including illegal spying and working with foreign govts) to reverse the 2016 election results and overthrow our Constitutional Republic?

Sounds like a communist coup d'etet to me...and most normal patriots.

15 posted on 11/21/2019 5:44:12 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: arthurus

Bulls**t.


16 posted on 11/21/2019 5:46:58 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: Kaslin
It absolutely is a coup attempt. The participants (including the coughing felon and the Kenyan turd) should be tried, convicted of sedition (or maybe treason) and either jailed for a long time or executed. I keep waiting form it to happen, but so far just the occasional vague promise (kind of like a fart Swallwell in a hurricane.)
17 posted on 11/21/2019 5:52:10 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Very_British_Coup

A Very British Coup is a 1982 novel by British politician Chris Mullin. The novel has twice been adapted for television; as A Very British Coup in 1988 and as Secret State in 2012.

Plot
Harry Perkins is the left-wing Leader of the Labour Party and Member of Parliament for Sheffield Central. Beating all the odds, Harry becomes Prime Minister and sets out to dismantle media monopolies, withdraw from NATO, carry out unilateral nuclear disarmament, and create an open government. Many people in the media, financial services, and the intelligence services are deeply unhappy with Harry’s win and his policies, and they unite to stop him by any means.

Analysis
The book was written in 1981, at a time when Tony Benn looked likely to become deputy leader of the Labour Party which at the time was strongly challenging the government of Margaret Thatcher in the opinion polls. It also has strong echoes of the persistent rumours that have circulated over the years about attempts by members of the British security services, and other wings of the British Establishment, to undermine and depose Harold Wilson’s Labour government of the mid-1970s.[3] This first became widespread public knowledge around 1986 with the controversy over Spycatcher, after the publication of the novel but before the broadcast of the TV version. The story also has echoes of the 1975 Australian constitutional crisis in which there was alleged CIA involvement to remove a government proposing to close US military bases on Australian soil.

Some editions of the book include a quote by Peregrine Worsthorne from his article When Treason Can Be Right, which argues that treason to defend the UK’s alliance with the USA would be justified. This indicates the choice of name for Sir Peregrine, the chief conspirator in the novel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Very_British_Coup_(miniseries)
A Very British Coup (miniseries)

Plot
Harry Perkins, an unassuming, working class, very left-wing Leader of the Labour Party and Member of Parliament for Sheffield Central, becomes Prime Minister in March 1991. The priorities of the Perkins Government include dissolving all newspaper monopolies, withdrawal from NATO, removing all American military bases on UK soil, unilateral nuclear disarmament, and true open government. Newspaper magnate Sir George Fison, with allies within British political and civil service circles, moves immediately to discredit him, with the United States the key, but covert, conspirator. The most effective of the Prime Minister’s domestic enemies is the aristocratic Sir Percy Browne, Head of MI5, whose ancestors “unto the Middle Ages” have exercised subtle power behind the scenes. However Harry finds support in Joan Cook, a loyal Member of Parliament (MP) and Home Secretary; and Thompson, Perkins’ Press Secretary; Inspector Page, his Head of Security and Sir Montague Kowalski, the Government Chief Scientific Adviser. It provides an intimate view of the machinations of a particularly British political conspiracy.

Writing
The endings of the novel and the television version are significantly different. In the novel, the Prime Minister is forced from office following a catastrophic nuclear accident at an experimental nuclear plant that he had pushed for while Secretary of State for Energy in a previous government. This is the most explicit parallel between Harry Perkins and Tony Benn. In the TV version, the Prime Minister is presented with forged evidence of financial irregularity following a short-lived affair years previously; with the suggestion that he should resign rather than see the story made public. He agrees to make a resignation speech on live television, but instead announces the attempted blackmail and calls for a new election. Senior Army officers and security service officials watch in silence. The final sequence, on the morning of the election, is deliberately ambiguous, but implies that a military coup has begun.


18 posted on 11/21/2019 5:54:45 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: a fool in paradise

A parallel (and possible model) if ever there was one


19 posted on 11/21/2019 5:55:55 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: arthurus

“So this all is NOT A COUP!”

Yet.


20 posted on 11/21/2019 5:56:14 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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