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American Migration Patterns Should Terrify the GOP
The Atlantic ^ | 21 Sept 2019 | Derek Thompson

Posted on 10/31/2019 9:47:57 PM PDT by Theoria

Millennial movers have hastened the growth of left-leaning metros in southern red states such as Texas, Arizona, and Georgia. It could be the biggest political story of the 2020s.

Liberals in America have a density problem. Across the country, Democrats dominate in cities, racking up excessive margins in urban cores while narrowly losing in suburban districts and sparser states. Because of their uneven distribution of votes, the party consistently loses federal elections despite winning the popular vote.

The most famous case was in 2016, when Hillary Clinton lost the presidential election despite her 2.4-million-vote margin. Clinton carried Manhattan and Brooklyn by approximately 1 million ballots—more than Donald Trump’s margins of victory in the states of Florida, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania combined.

But 2016 wasn’t a fluke. Neither was 2000, when Al Gore lost the election despite winning 500,000 more votes than George W. Bush. A recent paper from researchers at the University of Texas at Austin concluded that Republicans are expected to win 65 percent of presidential contests in which they narrowly lose the popular vote.

Democrats can blame the Electoral College for these losses—as they should. But according to the Stanford political scientist Jonathan Rodden’s new book, Why Cities Lose, the problem isn’t just the districting. It’s the density. All over the world, liberal, college-educated voters pack into cities, where they dilute their own voting power through excessive concentration. “Underrepresentation of the urban left in national legislatures and governments has been a basic feature of all industrialized countries that use winner-take-all elections,” he writes.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cities; electoralcollege; gop; migration; millennial; redstate
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1 posted on 10/31/2019 9:47:57 PM PDT by Theoria
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2 posted on 10/31/2019 9:48:31 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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“Democrats can blame the Electoral College for these losses—as they should.”

The headline doesn’t match the article. Although if the liberals are moving from say California to Texas then that is an issue (which it is).

If it weren’t for the Electoral College, America would be like the country depicted in “The Hunger Games”. The big cities would just dictate to the rest of the country what they wanted, and how much they wanted to pay for it. And when the country folks refused the cities would just take it.

Although I’m guessing the country in the movie never had the 2nd Amendment.


3 posted on 10/31/2019 9:54:22 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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it is what it is........I’m tired of constantly worrying......


4 posted on 10/31/2019 9:56:30 PM PDT by cherry
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If SHTF, they are moving close to their doom...

It's an unfortunate truth that the enemies that are the closest are the first to experience righteous wrath...

5 posted on 10/31/2019 10:03:13 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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The GOP has to do more to win people over. You cannot rely on the present. You have to look to the future.

Everybody believes in a better future. The vast majority of Americans believe in the American dream. GOP needs slightly better marketing is all.

Unfortunately, the real-politics of it is barely 1% right now. But, in the long run 1% adds up. And 1% can become 2% can become 3% and it compounds...


6 posted on 10/31/2019 10:04:18 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Millennial movers have hastened the growth of left-leaning metros in southern red states such as Texas, Arizona, and Georgia.

It sounds like these aren't people fleeing the blue states who end up voting for Democrats. Rather they're young people moving where the jobs are and bringing their political views with them. I suspect they don't have serious ideological grievances with the places they came from. People who really don't like the blue states and move to red states may get scapegoated for the failure of Republicans in those states to adapt their ways to changing demographics.

But according to the Stanford political scientist Jonathan Rodden’s new book, Why Cities Lose, the problem isn’t just the districting. It’s the density. All over the world, liberal, college-educated voters pack into cities, where they dilute their own voting power through excessive concentration. “Underrepresentation of the urban left in national legislatures and governments has been a basic feature of all industrialized countries that use winner-take-all elections,” he writes.

Far be it from me to argue with a Stanford political scientist, but no. The people he's talking about are something like 10% of the population, maybe a little more. If they win anything at all it's because they are concentrated. Spread them out equally across the country and their votes wouldn't count for much.

7 posted on 10/31/2019 10:06:19 PM PDT by x
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The GOP has to do more to win people over.

As long as the USA has a Federal Reserve issuing a completely unbacked, fiat currency, pushing interest rates to zero allowing Fed.gov to run $Trillion deficits, there will always be enough money for big government and 1000 leftist social-engineering projects.

Conservatives will never win against the power of the nanny-state running on printed money and massive debt.

8 posted on 10/31/2019 10:27:14 PM PDT by PGR88
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Mass legal immigration is rapidly changing the demographics of the country in favor of the Dems. We have brought in 35 million legal permanent immigrants since 1990 and this does not include the 300,000 anchor babies born annually to illegal aliens. They are citizens at birth.


9 posted on 10/31/2019 10:28:29 PM PDT by kabar
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I don’t disagree.

But we got here through incrementalism. We can get our way out the same way. The key is education.

I found myself the other day explaining to someone how $500/month is $6000/year. Somehow they did not realize how $500 = $6000. It only takes a year! But it rang a bell.

We can win. We just do a crappy job marketing it.


10 posted on 10/31/2019 10:42:50 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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There are some signs too that Millennials do grow up, mature and change. Lets hope.


11 posted on 10/31/2019 10:48:03 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS!)
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All of the people I know that are leaving me behind here in California for Texas, Idaho etc. have had enough of one party, liberal rule and are seeking more conservative, cheaper states.


12 posted on 10/31/2019 10:50:11 PM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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I don’t know about the GOP, but they frighten me.


13 posted on 10/31/2019 10:51:14 PM PDT by sport
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Re: The key is education.

Reality says otherwise.

Asian Indian Americans are the best educated and best paid ethnic group in America.

They voted 80% to reelect Obama in 2012.

They voted 77% to elect Hillary in 2016.

14 posted on 10/31/2019 11:33:00 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: monkeyshine

But the Democrats keep inviting in people who are used to authoritarian regimes. Many of then aren’t interested in freedom and self-government as we understand it. They would be fine with an authoritarian government that offers more “free” stuff than where they came from. That and the left keeps them stirred up about racial and ethnic “identity” - so most of them vote for demagogues who preach resentment and offer them more entitlements.


15 posted on 10/31/2019 11:41:54 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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All of this can be laid at the doorstep of George W Bush. He had the political capital to slam the door shut on illegal immigration after 9/11, and greatly curb legal immigration. Instead, we got an unfettered wave of Third World infestation, which resulted in voter fraud and Democratic gains. This, in turn, led to liberalism and PC becoming acceptable and mainstream and the minds of youth being polluted. Critical thinking skills are largely non-existent in the millenial generation, I see it every day in the workplace. This may sound extreme, but I believe President Trump is one 8 year term (Obama’s) late in being able to fix the mess. Now we’re just managing the decline.


16 posted on 11/01/2019 12:16:54 AM PDT by Mozzafiato
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To: 21twelve
If it weren’t for the Electoral College, America would be like the country depicted in “The Hunger Games”. The big cities would just dictate to the rest of the country what they wanted, and how much they wanted to pay for it. And when the country folks refused the cities would just take it.

It's happening at the Stste level. Oregon, California, Washington, Illinois....

17 posted on 11/01/2019 1:12:01 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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Democrats can blame the Electoral College for these losses—as they should

Just who's side is the article's author on?

18 posted on 11/01/2019 3:18:35 AM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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Its more accurately termed “voter fraud” migration as it metastasizes from the inner cities where it was born in the 1960’s out into the periphery.


19 posted on 11/01/2019 4:06:33 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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Yeah, well (concerning the article title), I've been terrified of migration "patterns" as far back as bj klinton's reign. I voted for jorge busho thinking he was the real deal but screamed in rage as he betrayed US on every conceivable issue, but mostly, on crimigration.

We no longer even have the ability, much less, the capacity, to do the right things now. The termites are in the walls, the floors, the ceilings............

We'd have to tear the whole structure down and start over.

20 posted on 11/01/2019 4:11:56 AM PDT by LouAvul
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