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A Million People Are Jailed at China's Gulags. I Managed to Escape. Here's What Really Goes on
Haaretz ^ | Oct 17, 2019 | David Stavrou

Posted on 10/23/2019 6:39:16 AM PDT by MassMinuteman

STOCKHOLM – Twenty prisoners live in one small room. They are handcuffed, their heads shaved, every move is monitored by ceiling cameras. A bucket in the corner of the room is their toilet. The daily routine begins at 6 A.M. They are learning Chinese, memorizing propaganda songs and confessing to invented sins. They range in age from teenagers to elderly. Their meals are meager: cloudy soup and a slice of bread.

Torture – metal nails, fingernails pulled out, electric shocks – takes place in the “black room.” Punishment is a constant. The prisoners are forced to take pills and get injections. It’s for disease prevention, the staff tell them, but in reality they are the human subjects of medical experiments. Many of the inmates suffer from cognitive decline. Some of the men become sterile. Women are routinely raped.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinagulag; redchina
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To: Lazamataz
The left will happily tell you that we imprison a higher percentage of our population than does China. Of course, our jailbirds are in the hoosegow for real crimes like rape, murder, narcotics dealing, etc.

China doesn't count political prisoners in their statistics because these aren't prisons, they are re-education camps.

21 posted on 10/23/2019 7:10:51 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: MassMinuteman

Imagine Nazi Germany was supplying 80% of the goods in American stores — with the Holocaust already known about — and everyone was just fine with it


22 posted on 10/23/2019 7:14:10 AM PDT by montag813
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To: MassMinuteman

This is EXACTLY what the domestic RAT communists here would do to us IF they could get away with it....or even worse.
Never, ever, give up your guns. It’s better to fight em to our last breath than to ever succumb to their utter evil BS on our knees.


23 posted on 10/23/2019 7:16:54 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Completely agree. All while American companies are expecting “growth” in China. They’re selling their souls for blood money. Tech companies like Facebook are developing AI to assist them. The NBA shuts down free speech for them. Almost all day-to-day payments, including being paid, are done via a phone app called “wechat” - which the government controls. Now they’re going to use the “social credit score” to determine your ability to access the internet, using face recognition as the key.

It is total control over the population, while being brutal if you resist. It’s already at insane levels and just getting worse.

The left in this country would have no problem imposing the same on everyone here.


24 posted on 10/23/2019 7:18:34 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: MassMinuteman
These people being abused by China are primarily Muslims. I'm not sure how much sympathy or empathy I should be showing them. I think China has the right idea about the dangerous threat that Muslims represent, and this is certainly better than just killing them out right.

Muslims cannot be allowed to spread their religion.

25 posted on 10/23/2019 7:23:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

“I keep saying China is not Communist anymore. It is textbook Fascist. They only pretend to be Communist but in reality their economy, their government, their society... everything... textbook Fascist.”

You’re saying the Soviets never did such things??? Where were you? You’re saying North Vietnam never did such things when it invaded and took over South Vietnam?? I guess you never listened to the Vietnamese boat people, that numbered nearly a million. You’re saying that North Korea does not do such things?? All those cases were/are Communist countries. Where in the hell are you???

Actually all Communist China has done is put a different market face on its Communist government and system, and it is only a face. It is not a capitalist free market economy. It is a form of nationalist, mercantilist state-capitalist economy run by the Communist dictatorship that still, in that system, controls most of the largest businesses and industries, either directly or via who it is that owns most of the interest in a company, which is often the party, some party officials or some governmental unit. Then, through the party, the financial arms of the party - the Chinese banks - do as the party directs in terms of who is and is not going to get loans, and even who a company will or will not be able to partner with. No. The Communists in China simply have gotten more sophisticated than the old soviet system as to how the government & the party stay in control of everything, economically, financially, politically, and even “socially”. Control is what Communism calls for, and giving the appearance of independent private owners is fine, when the realty is that you are still the ones in control. By controlling the largest, the most and the most important, the hundreds of little outfits are caught in and dependent on those sectors the party and government control in one way or another. Their financial fate is caught up in the mass that the government and party have the levers over. It is not a “free market”, no matter how it looks to outsiders and even the sheeple of China.


26 posted on 10/23/2019 7:24:21 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
I keep saying China is not Communist anymore. It is textbook Fascist. They only pretend to be Communist but in reality their economy, their government, their society... everything... textbook Fascist.

Probably so, if you go by the saying that under Communism the state owns the means of production, but under Fascism the state merely controls the means of production. All else is the same.

27 posted on 10/23/2019 7:25:16 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: MassMinuteman

“Hell yes we’re going to take your AR-15!”


28 posted on 10/23/2019 7:27:18 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: MassMinuteman

Google is partnering with China (not the US govt) to develop advanced artificial intelligence. So much for their “motto “don’t be evil”.


29 posted on 10/23/2019 7:28:11 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (When dealing with snowflakes, be a Flamethrower.)
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To: RatRipper

Yes, a socialist is a communist screaming to get out, but does not want to expose himself until he has enough votes to finally eliminate the need for any more votes. A socialist wants to gradually, skillfully, constantly subvert a country into Communism, without firing a shot. And they are willing to take generations to do it.


30 posted on 10/23/2019 7:28:16 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: MassMinuteman

31 posted on 10/23/2019 7:29:10 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: RatRipper

“The goal of socialism is communism.” - Vladimir Lenin

Bad news. It’s a great quote but he didn’t say it.


32 posted on 10/23/2019 7:33:31 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
"China is not Communist anymore. It is textbook Fascist."

Fascism works.

33 posted on 10/23/2019 7:33:52 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the worldÂ’s problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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To: edwinland
“The goal of socialism is communism.” - Vladimir Lenin

Updated:

The goal of globalism is socialism.

The goal of socialism is communism.

34 posted on 10/23/2019 7:35:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: edwinland

Don’t remember my source, but I didn’t make it up. Prove your negative


35 posted on 10/23/2019 7:35:33 AM PDT by RatRipper
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To: MassMinuteman

How many do you think have “disappeared” from Hong Kong in recent weeks to places like this? The CCP will never say, but rumors are — thousands.


36 posted on 10/23/2019 7:36:37 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Leaning Right

“> You wonder who could inflict such torture on people? <”

Someone who is trying to avoid similar torture on himself.


37 posted on 10/23/2019 7:36:56 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: MassMinuteman

“A large number of camps have been established in that region over the past two years, as part of the regime’s struggle against what it terms the “Three Evils”: terrorism, separatism and extremism.”

Wouldn’t it be easier for China to just let the Uyghurs go their separate way?

Maybe they’re afraid that if they do, there would be other ethnic groups wanting to be separate and independent.

We are facing similar problems here between the left and the right and Latinos, blacks and whites and soon Muslims as their population grows.


38 posted on 10/23/2019 7:46:56 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: MassMinuteman

Communists torturing muslims. Except for those who are misidentified as muslims, isn’t that simply a matter of devils torturing devils?

We better make sure neither group of devils ever seize control of this country, or we’ll be the ones who are tortured and killed.


39 posted on 10/23/2019 7:52:55 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: MassMinuteman

Communism is demonic and China is the textbook example of that fact.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.


40 posted on 10/23/2019 7:56:41 AM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side..)
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