Posted on 10/22/2019 10:28:47 AM PDT by gandalftb
Even to a nation hardened to drug war images, the scenes in Culiacán were shocking.
Scores of cartel gunmen shut down the streets and engaged in sustained battles with the armed forces.
It was a huge embarrassment for the government. They had captured one of the most wanted men in Mexico and, outgunned and overwhelmed by the cartel, they simply turned him back over to his men.
"It was a failure of everything," says Professor Raul Benitez, a security expert at the National Autonomous University in Mexico (UNAM).
"What it showed was the great power and control that the Sinaloa Cartel still exercises over the city of Culiacán."
Now the fear is that other cartels in the country will have learned an important lesson from what happened in Culiacán.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
Private armies roam about with armored vehicles, heavy machine guns, RPGs, and Gatling mini-guns.
Los Federales cannot stop them anymore. The other cartels will follow suit.
The only solution to constant war is to break up Mexico, there is no Federal control anyway. The Yucatan, particularly, should break away as they have before:
https://insightsur.com/2012/10/29/how-the-united-states-nearly-annexed-the-yucatan/
> They had captured one of the most wanted men in Mexico and, outgunned and overwhelmed by the cartel, they simply turned him back over to his men. <
People learn what you teach them. And the cartels have just learned that engaging federal troops is a good strategy.
I post in Mexico. I am quite familiar with the whole scenario. I think the proverbial sticking one’s head in the sands, goes for MUCH of the countryside in Mexico. The Cartels RULE Michoacan, as well as Guerrero, and most of Oaxaca. Self Defense groups have arisen, and there is no bright horiaon of hope. Until the streets of San Francisco stop GIVING syringes to encourage people to DO drugs, the DEMAND will always bring in a Supply for a price. Probably it is time to give drugs away for FREE, and let every fool who wants to imbibde, take as much, and promptly kill oneself. HOW hard should sober people work and pay for people to live sober, if they insist they want to be hallucinated with drugs.
I post in Mexico. I am quite familiar with the whole scenario. I think the proverbial sticking one’s head in the sands, goes for MUCH of the countryside in Mexico. The Cartels RULE Michoacan, as well as Guerrero, and most of Oaxaca. Self Defense groups have arisen, and there is no bright horiaon of hope. Until the streets of San Francisco stop GIVING syringes to encourage people to DO drugs, the DEMAND will always bring in a Supply for a price. Probably it is time to give drugs away for FREE, and let every fool who wants to imbibde, take as much, and promptly kill oneself. HOW hard should sober people work and pay for people to live sober, if they insist they want to be hallucinated with drugs.
I post in Mexico. I am quite familiar with the whole scenario. I think the proverbial sticking one’s head in the sands, goes for MUCH of the countryside in Mexico. The Cartels RULE Michoacan, as well as Guerrero, and most of Oaxaca. Self Defense groups have arisen, and there is no bright horiaon of hope. Until the streets of San Francisco stop GIVING syringes to encourage people to DO drugs, the DEMAND will always bring in a Supply for a price. Probably it is time to give drugs away for FREE, and let every fool who wants to imbibde, take as much, and promptly kill oneself. HOW hard should sober people work and pay for people to live sober, if they insist they want to be hallucinated with drugs.
Perhaps they should have invested in some airpower.
Perhaps they should have invested in some airpower.
Provided you have a good edge in materiel...
They only let Ovidio go out of kindness, I suppose.
“I post in Mexico. I am quite familiar with the whole scenario”
Is the average citizen sick of the crime and drugs but powerless to do anything about it?
What is the % of citizens against the cartels?
America’s demand for illegal drugs cause them to be profitable. Our system of government makes enforcement of drug laws difficult because of our rights against illegal searches and seizures. All drug laws accomplish are raising the price and the potential profitability of drugs. The only answer is outright legalization in America and dealing with drugs as a medical rather than a law enforcement problem.
Coulda had him any day.
> Probably it is time to give drugs away for FREE, and let every fool who wants to imbibe... <
That actually would be a reasonable option. But I am, however, against it. Most everyone has moments of weakness. For some, it’s only a few times in a lifetime. For others, it’s almost daily. So I’d hate to make it easy for those folks to score during their weak moments.
My proposal (not that anyone asked):
1. Fenced-in work farms for addicts. Not prisons, but work farms. Decent conditions, drug addiction treatment, vegetable gardens.
2. A swift death penalty for traffickers (the Singapore approach).
I’m going to have to listen to that song today. Great tune.
https://genius.com/Townes-van-zandt-pancho-and-lefty-lyrics
Living on the road, my friend
Was gonna keep you free and clean
Now you wear your skin like iron
Your breath’s as hard as kerosene
You weren’t your mama’s only boy
But her favorite one, it seems
She began to cry when you said goodbye
And sank into your dreams
Pancho was a bandit, boys
His horse was fast as polished steel
Wore his gun outside his pants
For all the honest world to feel
But Pancho met his match, you know
In the deserts down in Mexico
Nobody heard his dying words
That’s the way it goes
And all the federales say
They could have had him any day
They only let him hang around
Out of kindness, I suppose
And Lefty, he can’t sing the blues
All night long like he used to
The dust that Pancho bit down south
Ended up in Lefty’s mouth
The day they laid poor Pancho low
Lefty split for Ohio
And where he got the bread to go
Ain’t nobody knows
And all the federales say
They could have had him any day
They only let him slip away
Out of kindness, I suppose
Well, the poets tell how Pancho fell
Lefty’s living in a cheap hotel
The desert’s quiet, Cleveland’s cold
So the story ends, we’re told
Pancho needs your prayers, it’s true
But save a few for Lefty, too
He just did what he had to do
And now he’s growing old
And a few gray federales say
They could have had him any day
They only let him go so wrong
Out of kindness, I suppose
Corruption. We should start arming the citizens there instead of just the bad guys. Terror works...both ways as we know from 2nd A.
There will always be a demand to smuggle something in the US, drugs, migrants, electronics, etc.
The poor will always chase the wealthy.
That means criminal smuggling gangs in Mexico forever.
Those gangs are now rich enough to field armies and challenge Los Federales.
Time to break up Mexico and isolate the warring areas.
Yes, corruption and birbery, but also one-party rule, and the incredible disparity or the rich and poor.
Revolution has started.
“Detaining” terrorists is a stupid plan from the get-go.
Everyone knows that the CARTEL industry brings cash abundance to the hords. Schools in Guerrero, have Poppy fields growing 50 ft from playgrounds, and kids are given money to prick the pods of amapola to make the content of the buds more juicy to yield a better cocaine harvest. The drug lords give large sums of money to rebuild roads, help hospitals, and give jobs to people to cut grass, fix food, be night watchmen. The industry brings JOBS to the poorest of the poor. MOST smaller towns WELCOME the benefits that come with the cocaine harvests.
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