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Congress set for showdown with Trump over Kurds
The Hill ^ | 10/09/19 06:11 PM EDT | JORDAIN CARNEY AND REBECCA KHEEL

Posted on 10/10/2019 2:04:53 AM PDT by robowombat

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1 posted on 10/10/2019 2:04:53 AM PDT by robowombat
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President Trump is barreling toward a showdown with Congress over his decision to pull back U.S. troops in northern Syria despite widespread opposition.

I stopped reading right there. Oh the Hugemannity.

2 posted on 10/10/2019 2:08:48 AM PDT by McGruff (No one is above the law - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: robowombat

I stand with President Trump!


3 posted on 10/10/2019 2:10:48 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: robowombat
If Congress wants a war, they should declare and fund it.

They won't, so they should shut up.

4 posted on 10/10/2019 2:13:57 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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If Congress wants a war, they should declare and fund it.

Yup. And until they do, President Trump can tell them to pound sand. He alone is the CinC of the armed forces.

5 posted on 10/10/2019 2:18:02 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.>>>)
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If you play the ‘stay-in-Syria’ scenario....it’s basically an open-ended deployment for thirty years, and try to pretend that you partition Syria off with no real public understanding that you were inventing a Kurdish homeland....where a hundred years ago...few if any Kurds existed.

It’s not our job to partition lands, or act like some fake guard unit. I’d also invite people to review the Kurd history of the past hundred years and the number of occasions that they went after and killed Christians in Syria.


6 posted on 10/10/2019 2:18:12 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: robowombat
Erdogan is a tyrant who needs to be crushed. Rather than have America deal with him Europe needs to step up . By having America withdraw it might actually wake up Europe to do what it needs to do.
7 posted on 10/10/2019 2:18:55 AM PDT by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong.)
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To: robowombat

I didn’t know a president/CIC required a declaration of peace from Congress before withdrawing from a war/non-war.


8 posted on 10/10/2019 2:22:10 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: robowombat
Whether we support or oppose the decision to withdraw troops from Syria (only 1000 soldiers) should be made not on the basis of supporting Trump (my country right or wrong becoming Trump right or wrong) but on the merits of the policy itself.

Whatever side one comes down on the merits, no one can seriously dispute that the process was appallingly mishandled by this administration. The president should have sold his decision to congressional leaders, even Democrats, instead of leaving himself vulnerable on the eve of impeachment so unnecessarily.


9 posted on 10/10/2019 2:26:18 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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10 posted on 10/10/2019 2:26:56 AM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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"Romney (Backstabber - Utah Seditionists) and Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) .... "

Let us let Bishop Romney decide.

Bishop was RIGHT to impose ObamaCARE/ROmneyCARE (to help Bain)
and the Bishop Romney was RIGHT when he imposed his homosexual marriages
by fiat (and against the Mass. Constitution).

........... /s(is this really necessary?)

11 posted on 10/10/2019 2:28:40 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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Was war declared?

While I normally agree with you on military matters, all of the only appropriate responses to the intellectual diarrhea you just tried to submit are both scatological and profane.

Go find a declared and funded war to talk about, and only then can you rationally make that assertion.


12 posted on 10/10/2019 2:35:36 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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I agree. I’d like to know who advised the administration to do this.


13 posted on 10/10/2019 2:38:13 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Every liberal should be red-flagged.)
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There must be one Hell of a lot of Congress Critters wetting their beaks from the black budget for the Syrian mess.

What used to be one or two key committee chairs getting money from black ops under the table must now be spread around like the rest of the Pentagon budget to ensure that Critters in every State gets a bit.

14 posted on 10/10/2019 2:41:04 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: robowombat

I stand with the Prez. Why waste our American Treasure getting killed, maimed and the Lord know what by these animals. They have been fighting for hundreds of years let them kill each other.


15 posted on 10/10/2019 2:48:54 AM PDT by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: ScottinVA; MrEd
I agree. I’d like to know who advised the administration to do this.

I'd like to know whether any of this was vetted?

I cannot maintain that this is what happened but the reports I read tell me the president got off the phone with Erdogan and surprised the world by announcing this policy. Yes, I know that this had been part of his campaign and I know that he had mooted the subject of withdrawing troops from Syria some time ago, but how was this vetted?

Was the president apprised fully of the effect it would have on Congress? Was the president advised about the damage to the Kurds? Was the president advised about the possible damage to him in the impeachment fiasco? Was the president advised about the potential consequences of securing other allies, especially Muslim allies, to fight our battles for us? Was the president apprised of the rather large political and geopolitical downside consequences of his decision and the relatively paltry upside advantages to his decision? Was this the right place and the right time to effect his stated policy (with which I agree in general terms) of withdrawing American forces from endless, fruitless wars?


16 posted on 10/10/2019 2:51:58 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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Let’s see... Events seem to indicate that Trump knew about Turkey’s plans and pulled our 50 troops out of harm’s way ahead of the invasion. Those 50 were never going to stop an invasion, but were in prime position to get killed for nothing.

Trump did the right thing.

Why did we have troops there in the first place? Why do we have troops scattered all over the world? Any use of the military for other than national defense and to provide humanitarian aid on a limited basis is misuse.


17 posted on 10/10/2019 2:52:09 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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[I’d like to know who advised the administration to do this.]


It wouldn’t surprise me if this was Trump forcing Congress to give him a definite authorization with a definite budget. If Congress does in fact force his hand, maybe an independent Kurdistan will be the result. On the one hand, I think the Kurds are doing yeoman’s work when they could legitimately leave and get refugee status in Europe. On the other, maybe it’s Europe’s turn to foot the bill. This is a deployment that’s costing billions a year. Why isn’t Europe paying for it?


18 posted on 10/10/2019 2:53:27 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: nathanbedford
The president should have sold his decision to congressional leaders, even Democrats, instead of leaving himself vulnerable on the eve of impeachment so unnecessarily.

No offense, but that’s idiotic. Selling a decision to withdraw troops from a place where they were never supposed to be in the first place is preposterous. That’s like saying the President should have sold his decision to Congress on ending Obama’s totally illegal DACA executive order before canceling it.

19 posted on 10/10/2019 2:55:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: robowombat

Remember when Congress got their panties in a wad when B.O.pulled the many troops out of Iraq? Me neither.


20 posted on 10/10/2019 2:57:10 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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