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Russian carrier Aeroflot cancels order for 22 Boeing 787 Dreamliners
Seattle Times ^ | October 8, 2019 | Dominic Gates

Posted on 10/10/2019 1:40:02 AM PDT by NorseViking

Boeing’s backlog of 787 Dreamliner orders was cut by 14 in September when Russian airline Aeroflot canceled its 2007 order for 22 Dreamliners — 18 of the smaller 787-8s and four 787-9s — while the company booked one new order from Air New Zealand for eight of the largest 787-10 model.

The lost order is a cause for concern in Everett because the 787 backlog is dwindling fast as the company aims to roll out the planes at a rate of 14 jets per month.

Boeing has been seeking new 787 orders to ensure it can maintain that high production rate, which is now critically important with the cash flow from the 737 MAX blocked by that jet’s grounding.

Boeing now has a total order book of 1,450 Dreamliners through September, with 894 of those delivered. The 556 still to be delivered, split roughly 50:50 between the two production sites in Everett and in North Charleston, S.C., leave 40 months of work at the 14 jets per month rate.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; manufacturing
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1 posted on 10/10/2019 1:40:02 AM PDT by NorseViking
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I’m surprised Russia buys anything at all from the USA, given the state of relations and the image Democrats and the Deep State have given them


2 posted on 10/10/2019 1:52:06 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Maduro and Castro agree.


3 posted on 10/10/2019 2:36:46 AM PDT by rrrod
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They also buy Airbus, but they have their own problems. Their own domestic airliner firms have made huge strides but while they can make different systems that are very good, the overall product isn’t as good. Boeing farms out some 787 subassemblies to Russian contractors.

This has turned out to be a mistake as the Russians have taken the tech given them and are now working on an upcoming competing airliner with China.


4 posted on 10/10/2019 2:42:04 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: PGR88

Russia was a trading partner with the US even during the height of the Cold War.

We were even on the same side in WWII.


5 posted on 10/10/2019 2:44:16 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: NorseViking

Ouch


6 posted on 10/10/2019 2:51:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Russian canceled 22 787-8s and 787-9s...but is ordering eight 787-10s from Air New Zealand?

Boeing has only themselves to blame in all this. They should be happy that Aeroflot is still flying their 787s, no matter the model nor where it comes from.


7 posted on 10/10/2019 3:53:40 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: PGR88

I didn’t know that they bought commercial aircraft from anybody. I thought they flew only their own models.


8 posted on 10/10/2019 5:24:05 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: NorseViking

Your link does not work. When I search Seattle Times for “Russia Aeroflot Dreamliner” Or “Aeroflot cancel Dreamliner” I get no hits...but I DO find articles from the initial order in 2007.


9 posted on 10/10/2019 5:35:06 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: BradyLS

I think you read it wrong. Air New Zealand is ordering from Boeing, not Aeroflot. It is a confusing sentence.


10 posted on 10/10/2019 5:38:04 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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This cancellation is no surprise. The order is twelve years old. Reuters reports...

“The cancellation, first reported by the Seattle Times and buried in Boeing’s monthly order release, is the final step in unwinding an order that had been shrouded in uncertainty ever since the airline said in 2015 it no longer needed the planes.“

11 posted on 10/10/2019 5:39:51 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/russian-carrier-aeroflot-cancels-order-for-22-boeing-787-dreamliners/

I removed this %3famp=1 from the end of the OP’s link and it works. It also works if I swap the % for a ?

The question mark is more standard so I had a feeling ...

They use those url suffixes for various purposes. Tracking where a clicked link came from, device you’re on etc. Systems like twitter can add them or the website you visit might add one, once they sniff out what browser or device you’re on.


12 posted on 10/10/2019 5:49:49 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Spktyr

Concordski II


13 posted on 10/10/2019 5:53:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: NorseViking

They will order from Amazon and get their aircraft the next day....


14 posted on 10/10/2019 5:57:02 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
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To: NorseViking

Boeing seems to be going in the sh!tter. And I hold Boeing stock!


15 posted on 10/10/2019 6:39:49 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Cecily

The majority of Aeroflot aircraft are Airbus and Boeing. As far as Russian aircraft, pretty much all of the old Tupolevs are gone, and they have a handful of the new Sukhoi SuperJet 100s, which are actually quite nice.


16 posted on 10/10/2019 7:20:43 AM PDT by billakay
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To: NorseViking

Russia will make their own and better planes ,LOL


17 posted on 10/10/2019 7:25:05 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Maybe Boeing should concentrate more on quality production, and less on quantity production. Especially if they anticipate running out of backlog in three and a half years.

August 5, 2019: Airlines flying Boeing's 787-10 Dreamliner are complaining about quality they say is 'way below acceptable standards'

18 posted on 10/10/2019 9:24:15 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: billakay

Superjet is by all accounts a superb design but it has no future. It has a defective French engine requiring extensive maintenance and the engine producer doesn’t address it. Probably Airbus has something to do with it. For that reason Western airlines are phasing it.
MC-21 is a new larger design, very promising as a replacement of Tu-154 but it was designed with a composite wing using Japanese components and Japanese company involved was sanctioned off the project by US.
For 787 long haul high capacity replacement Russia is redesigning a 1970s vintage Il-86 jumbo jet with the idea to built an efficient twin-engine aircraft out of it. The problem is it needs 70klbs thrust engines traditionally made in Ukraine. Ukrainian company was sanctioned off Russian business too and went bankrupt, engineers and machinery moved to China. Russia is developing a replacement but tech manager of a developer company was arrested in Italy on trumped up charges under request from US. CIA said the guy has ties with Russian military intellegence and engaged in sabotage against GE then hired laid off GE engineers for his project ‘to steal technology’.
I believe Boeing has something to do with MC-21 and big engine problems.
It will be solved over time but as you can see it is a dirty business and nothing is easy.


19 posted on 10/10/2019 9:34:16 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: butlerweave

See post 19.


20 posted on 10/10/2019 9:35:06 AM PDT by NorseViking
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