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Tucker Carlson says Trump's Ukraine call was inappropriate: 'There's no way to spin this'
CNN ^ | Oct. 5, 2019 | Oliver Darcy

Posted on 10/05/2019 11:15:14 AM PDT by Innovative

In a sign that the right-wing media's relentless defense of President Donald Trump may be cracking, Fox News host Tucker Carlson published an op-ed with Daily Caller co-founder and publisher Neil Patel zinging Trump for his call with Ukraine's president. "Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden," Carlson and Patel wrote. "Some Republicans are trying, but there's no way to spin this as a good idea."

Carlson and Patel added, "Like a lot of things Trump does, it was pretty over-the-top. Our leaders' official actions should not be about politics. Those two things need to remain separate. Once those in control of our government use it to advance their political goals, we become just another of the world's many corrupt countries. America is better than that."

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KEYWORDS: impeachment; trump; trumpukrainecall; tucker; ukraine
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To: Innovative

Former V.P. Biden admitted on video of threatening to withhold federal money to the Ukraine, if the President of the Ukraine didn’t fire the prosecutor who was investigating the company his own son had made millions from, for a job he wasn’t qualified for. So, if President Trump has knowledge of a possible crime having been committed based on the personal videotaped comments by a former V.P., and failed to act on what appeared to be credible corruption allegations against that former V.P., it would be tantamount to dereliction of duty. By ignoring it, Trump would basically be condoning it, which is something the Democrats and the media have been doing all along.


81 posted on 10/05/2019 11:57:45 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Innovative

Hey Tuck....Guess who the Chief Law Enforcement Officer is ?


82 posted on 10/05/2019 11:58:06 AM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: MuttTheHoople
Caught in bed with either a dead boy, or a live goat.

Both.

He can go on the garbage heap with National Review, William Kristol, George Will,Mitt, Weld, Jeb and sadly much of Fox News now. Hold your nose when you go past that pile.

Problem with "inappropriate" slur is anyone can now claim to be hands off once they say they may want to run run for office. Won't be right to investigate at that point.

Note: LOTS of Dems have been saying they may run (Schwartz formerly of Starbucks, several minor types no one remembers, and the early debate dropouts). Are they all exempt from President seeking they be brought to justice involving any crimes now?

Biden announced late with that syrupy video. Then he and his brat get out of jail free forever?

83 posted on 10/05/2019 11:58:13 AM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: dfwgator

Who cares what mothertucker thinks?


84 posted on 10/05/2019 11:58:26 AM PDT by chopperk (ms)
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To: maggief; Innovative; All

FWIW.....Tucker’s (and Patel’s) Op-Ed....

Tucker And Patel: The Truth About Impeachment

Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden. Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea. Like a lot of things Trump does, it was pretty over-the-top. Our leaders’ official actions should not be about politics. Those two things need to remain separate. Once those in control of our government use it to advance their political goals, we become just another of the world’s many corrupt countries. America is better than that. That’s also why it’s good that there are finally investigations looking into the extent to which the Obama FBI may have used our government — and even foreign governments — to try to crush Trump in the last election.

The key question with Trump’s Ukraine call, though, is whether the president’s actions, advisable or not, rise to the level of an impeachable offense. It’s hard to argue they do. The president did not, as was first reported, offer a quid pro quo to the Ukrainians. He did not condition any U.S. support on a Biden investigation. The Justice Department has already looked at the totality of the call and determined that Trump did not break the law.

The key question with Trump’s Ukraine call, though, is whether the president’s actions, advisable or not, rise to the level of an impeachable offense. It’s hard to argue they do. The president did not, as was first reported, offer a quid pro quo to the Ukrainians. He did not condition any U.S. support on a Biden investigation. The Justice Department has already looked at the totality of the call and determined that Trump did not break the law.

Impeaching a president is the most extreme and anti-democratic remedy we have in our system of government. A fundamental cornerstone of our entire system is to respect the will of the voters. The American people elected Trump president of the United States, though a huge part of our political class has never been able to stomach it. They think Trump is unfit to be our president. They definitely don’t want to address seriously the issues that drove voters to the radical step of voting in Trump as our president — issues such as income inequality, economic stagnation and our broken immigration system. It’s easier to pretend that this was all the result of a few Russian Facebook ads or because the same American people who had just elected Barack Obama somehow transformed overnight into a bunch of racists.

So, now, as we are on the eve of another election season, our political class wants to take the most recent election away from the voters. Millions of Americans voted for Trump to try to shock our political system into finally listening to their concerns. How do you suppose they’ll feel about a system that instead removes Trump from our democracy? You don’t have to be an especially deep thinker to realize this is a recipe for social upheaval.

Nancy Pelosi has been right all these months when she’s repeatedly said that to be legitimate, impeachment must be bipartisan. Anything less would tear apart our country, she said. In this area, Pelosi is echoing the sentiment a senator expressed during the Clinton impeachment process:

“While the founders included impeachment powers in the Constitution, they were concerned by the potential partisan abuse. We should be no less aware of the dangers of partisanship. As we have seen, the process functions best when there is a broad bipartisan consensus behind moving ahead. The country is not well served when either policy disagreements or personal animosities drive the process.”

Those words ring true today. They were set forth in 1998 by then-Sen. Joe Biden.

The truth is there’s a large part of the left — and some never-Trumpers on the right — who never accepted Trump’s election and have wanted him impeached from the start. The Washington Post ran a piece headlined “The campaign to impeach President Trump has begun” on Jan. 20, 2017 — inauguration day. Talk about no honeymoon — and no respect for America’s voters.

Concerns about the political nature of what we’re seeing were exacerbated when we learned the so-called whistleblower who reported Trump’s Ukraine call was in touch with Rep. Adam Schiff — the Democrats’ lead on impeachment — even before he came forward to the public with his charges. Privately colluding with the staff of some of Trump’s biggest political opponents? That seems a little partisan for a good government whistleblower. It also seems pretty clear that Schiff was dishonest when he went on TV and directly denied prior contact with the whistleblower. None of this means Schiff should be removed from office, but by the standards he’s setting, he certainly could be.

A lot of people in Washington — in both parties — aren’t Trump fans. They complain that Trump doesn’t act the way most presidents act, that his attacks against his opponents are not presidential, that he lacks the requisite political experience and has hired some truly horrible staffers. There may be truth to some of that. Trump has certainly shaken up Washington. His supporters would argue that’s exactly what they wanted him to do. This is a legitimate debate worth having. Fortunately, America’s founders set up a pretty good system to have just this sort of debate every four years: It’s called an election. The next one’s already started. The facts are out there for the American people to weigh as they make their decision. How about we let them sort all this out? There’s no need to come up with thin excuses for a purely partisan impeachment process when we have an election right around the corner.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/03/tucker-and-patel-truth-about-impeachment/#disqus_thread


85 posted on 10/05/2019 11:59:59 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: lewislynn

That’s exactly what it is. He’s living in Manhattan 10 minutes away from where he works where he gets paid $6 million a year to work a few hours a day. Try to imagine losing that job.


86 posted on 10/05/2019 12:00:36 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary walks free, equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: jmaroneps37

Agreed,,,,,Just watched Fox interview of Jeff Mason. Mason is trying to be the baldheaded epitome of Acosta but is not as smart. Fox is becoming another CNN.


87 posted on 10/05/2019 12:01:09 PM PDT by chopperk (ms)
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To: jmaroneps37

I wish One America had more programming, they get boring.


88 posted on 10/05/2019 12:01:21 PM PDT by madison10
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Isn’t Tucker’s show broadcast from DC?


89 posted on 10/05/2019 12:03:27 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: stanne
.... With Rush you can see he doesn’t get Trump even still ...

I respectfully have to disagree. I think Rush understands President Trump far better than almost anyone, anywhere.

90 posted on 10/05/2019 12:03:30 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: x; PghBaldy

RE: It was inappropriate. It’s also the kind of thing that the government does all the time. Trump’s problem was getting caught

We have to disagree here.

Had Trump brought out the names of say, Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders or Corrie Booker, yes, it would be inappropriate. Why? Because those would be witch hunts. They have nothing to do with Ukraine.

Why Biden? Well, because in his case, it is NOT a witch hunt. It is investigation based on EXISTING EVIDENCE.

Not because he was a leading opposing candidate, BUT BECAUSE THERE IS EVIDENCE OF A QUID-PRO-QUO using American foreign policy as leverage when he was VP.

Doing so is simply applying his duty as the chief enforcer of the law, especially when it comes to corruption relating to foreign policy.

*THAT* evidence against Biden Warrants an investigation. If this is inappropriate, then all one has to do to avoid investigation after one does something corrupt is to run for President. That’s ridiculous of course. No one should be above the law.


91 posted on 10/05/2019 12:04:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Innovative

Brian Kilmeade said the exact same thing and attacked the President on his radio show on Thursday morning.

Seems like a Fox News talking point all of a sudden.

Paul Ryan is no on the board there and they want to keep their jobs.


92 posted on 10/05/2019 12:06:14 PM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Innovative

Here’s a clip from Tucker’s show, last night. I don’t see him attacking POTUS’ call w/Ukraine...in fact, he and this guest discuss how the Russia hoax originated w/Intelligence community...

https://video.foxnews.com/v/embed.js?id=6092570719001&w=466&h=263


93 posted on 10/05/2019 12:08:12 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long
A lot of people in Washington — in both parties — aren’t Trump fans. They complain that Trump doesn’t act the way most presidents act, that his attacks against his opponents are not presidential,...

Trump is exactly the pro-America street fighter who America needs to fight CW2 and the communists attempting to overthrow our Constitutional Republic and "fundamentally transform" our nation.

Patriots support Trump.

Trump has exposed the traitors...who should be hanged publicly.

ASAP.

94 posted on 10/05/2019 12:09:18 PM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: nevergore
Trump did get a little too specific by naming the lead demoncratic runner to be investigated.

Trump always takes his statement one word farther than someone wants him to. But if he didn''t name Biden then he still would have taken it one word too far. The corruption investigation would have been assumed to about Biden. I like the fact that Trump triggers his Dem and media opponents and makes them screw up. As they obsess over a phone call for months, most of America is going to write them off.

95 posted on 10/05/2019 12:09:51 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: jersey117

You might want to add Fox and Friends to the list. See my #92.


96 posted on 10/05/2019 12:09:59 PM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: dp0622

Good idea,,,,,Free Republic wants money but refuses to print many replies. What’s their problem?


97 posted on 10/05/2019 12:10:28 PM PDT by chopperk (ms)
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If anyone cares to give a listen, here’s a link to Tucker’s entire show, from last night, where he extensively covers impeachment/dossiers/whistleblowers, etc....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-aGH5tI1Y


98 posted on 10/05/2019 12:14:14 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Innovative

What don’t you read Tucker Carlson’s Op-Ed rather than accept the biased opinion of a CNN operative?

https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/03/tucker-and-patel-truth-about-impeachment/


99 posted on 10/05/2019 12:15:02 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Innovative

If CNN didn’t take this out of context as they do often, then Tucker’s job and future is being squeezed by the machine.


100 posted on 10/05/2019 12:18:21 PM PDT by Openurmind
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