Analysis: Warren and O'Rourke's Answers on Gun Control Confirm Second Amendment(T)

townhall.com ^ | 9/18/2019 | Guy Benson

[rktman]

In our political debates over gun policies, those who favor increased regulations and restrictions on firearms often claim that they're only asking for widely-supported, modest changes in the law. We're not coming for your guns, they promise; we're only looking to make a few 'common sense' alterations to the status quo. They cite polling that favors their position, and they ridicule as paranoid those Second Amendment supporters who warn about a so-called slippery slope. But emboldened leftist Democrats have been vindicating many conservatives' worst fears in recent days, with two answers at last Thursday's presidential debate standing out on this front. This response on confiscation from former Congressman Beto O'Rourke has gotten a lot of attention, with the candidate tripling down on it, going so far as to sell t-shirts featuring his confiscatory vow:

Another debate exchange that has received less attention, but is quite revealing was this answer from Elizabeth Warren:

We agree on many steps we could take to fix it. My view on this is, we're going to -- it's not going to be one and done on this. We're going to do it, and we're going to have to do it again, and we're going to have to come back some more until we cut the number of gun deaths in this country significantly.

She is straight-up saying that Democrats will keep returning to take bites at the gun control apple, over and over again. It's almost as if when conservatives say giving in inch will only result in more inches, feet, and yards sought, they're exactly right.

[rktman]

Just add this to the contestants prattling on about something that isn't gonna happen. But finally the cards are out.

[C210N]

We’ve given them so many inches, they now think they are rulers.

[rktman]

Nicely done.

[G Larry]

Using NZ as a reference, $36,700,000 / 20,000 = $1,835 average per firearm.

And an extremely LOW estimate of 15 Million "Assault Weapons" in the U.S.

Who's going to put $27,525,000,000 line item in the Federal Budget?

Never mind.......ain't gonna happen!

[Texas resident]

Beto and the rest are skipping the registration step and going for confiscation. Yeah, that will sell well.

[rktman]

As usual for the demokkkommies, they will “promise” to “buy them back”(?) but if they could get it passed, they would simply take them. To save a child of course.

[NorthMountain]

We need to quit being purely defensive on the right to keep and bear arms.

Mr. President: You say you want to make a deal. A deal has to have something in it that’s good for YOUR side. What gun control laws do you propose to REPEAL?

[NorthMountain]

Who's going to put $27,525,000,000 line item in the Federal Budget?

Nobody, and everyone knows it. Instead they'll put in a billion $ or so to hire additional goons and try to TAKE your guns.

Think that won't happen?

It's what they're planning.

Count on it.

[Lurkinanloomin]

They mean to disarm us and make us subjects.

I will not comply.

[ThunderSleeps]

$1800 or so per firearm? Not nearly enough. Tell you what Beto et. al. You want my AR, 1 billion dollars, tax free, and I will personally hand it over to you. Oh, and don’t take this the wrong way Beto, but I want the $1B in advance. It’s not that I don’t trust you, it’s just that I don’t trust you. But I figure with 1B I can afford my own armed private security.

[ctdonath2]

Like any would-be petty tyrant, their answer is “simple: you do what we want, and we won’t destroy you. For now.”

[Ancesthntr]

Warren and the rest of the gun-grabbing, would-be tyrants:

“Will you continue a reasonable discussion towards an end that might lead somewhere or is this an exercise in futility?”

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Any informed gun owner (answer courtesy of Law Dog https://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2010/09/ok-ill-play.html?showComment=1285384385988#c6434453110329887129 ):

“Since what you consider to be reasonable isn’t even in the same plane of reality with what I consider reasonable, probably not.

Allow me to explain.

I hear a lot about “compromise” from your camp ... except, it’s not compromise.

Let’s say I have this cake. It is a very nice cake, with “GUN RIGHTS” written across the top in lovely floral icing. Along you come and say, “Give me that cake.”

I say, “No, it’s my cake.”

You say, “Let’s compromise. Give me half.” I respond by asking what I get out of this compromise, and you reply that I get to keep half of my cake.

Okay, we compromise. Let us call this compromise The National Firearms Act of 1934.

There I am with my half of the cake, and you walk back up and say, “Give me that cake.”

I say, “No, it’s my cake.”

You say, “Let’s compromise.” What do I get out of this compromise? Why, I get to keep half of what’s left of the cake I already own.

So, we have your compromise — let us call this one the Gun Control Act of 1968 — and I’m left holding what is now just a quarter of my cake.

And I’m sitting in the corner with my quarter piece of cake, and here you come again. You want my cake. Again.

This time you take several bites — we’ll call this compromise the Clinton Executive Orders — and I’m left with about a tenth of what has always been MY DAMN CAKE and you’ve got nine-tenths of it.

Then we compromised with the Lautenberg Act (nibble, nibble), the HUD/Smith and Wesson agreement (nibble, nibble), the Brady Law (NOM NOM NOM), the School Safety and Law Enforcement Improvement Act (sweet tap-dancing Freyja, my finger!)

I’m left holding crumbs of what was once a large and satisfying cake, and you’re standing there with most of MY CAKE, making anime eyes and whining about being “reasonable”, and wondering “why we won’t compromise”.

I’m done with being reasonable, and I’m done with compromise. Nothing about gun control in this country has ever been “reasonable” nor a genuine “compromise”.”

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The lesson here is that the anti-gun fanatics who seek only to control everyone else in society DO NOT COMPROMISE. They only back off on their demands somewhat when they face opposition. Compromise MIGHT look like: “OK, we’ll have more thorough background checks by mandating that all state and local government agencies immediately update the NICS system when anyone is convicted of a crime. In return, suppressors are hereby removed from the NFA permanently, and will be treated as ordinary accessories for firearms. Further, Title 18, Section 922(o) of the US Code is hereby repealed.” THAT would be a compromise, where BOTH sides actually gave something up in order to gain something else. But until the Republicans grow a spine, that will never happen.

[IAGeezer912]

Beto “Cornwalis” O’Rourke: We have been here before. History repeating itself.

[New Jersey Realist]

They want to change the Amendment from...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

to:

...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall be contingent upon:
Registration
Permits
Background checks
Mental health checks
Waiting periods
Bans on scary-looking guns
Magazine bans
Ammo bans
Storage laws
Etc.

[60Gunner]

Warren and O’Rourke are precisely the wanna-be tyrants that the Founders had in mind when they wrote the Second Amendment. It was to warn jack-holes like them to leave us alone.

[rktman]

Uh, “want to”?

[Home-of-the-lazy-dog]

After all, how can you possibly trust a “President Irish Bob” who’s oath was to protect and defend the constitution, which by the way includes the 2nd amendment...”shall not infringe”?

Those politicians who are now saying “confiscate”, or even “infringe” are confirmed as untrustworthy by their own actions and words! The lying mofo’s.

[yoe]

Remember when Hillery said to the coal miners... "We Are Going To Put A Lot Of Coal Miners & Coal Companies Out Of Business"

that was another nail in her presidential coffin plus the fact she did not care for or follow the U.S. Constitution.....The United States Constitution is the glue that holds America together...it is not to be taken lightly however, these people on the left don't want the US Constitution getting in their way to Socialism/Communism. These Dem candidates are so unbearably grim with their lack of enthusiasm or ideas for America, their depressing message has little to do with the issues or any trust some might have had in their ability to govern.

Also missing is the American Flag from the stage. Stars and some stripes as decoration.....that tells me a lot about their values.

[JamesP81]

The Dems have been consistently lying about what they actually want on this issue for 50+ years. I’ll give Robert O’Rourke credit for being honest, as opposed to his compatriots. Every one of them wants something like what he’s proposing, he’s the only one honest enough to not lie about it.

[DMZFrank]

A standard capacity AR-15 magazine holds 30 rounds. These gun grabbers would have to convince me that there would NEVER be a scenatio in which I might have to shoot at tyrants 30 times before reloading.

They can’t.