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“And once you leave the street and walk into a private business, you are subject to their rules.”

Where that authoritatively written?

“That is a first amendment thing.”

How is that so? Stipulating it for now, “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” is a second amendment thing and more clearly stated than what you call “a first amendment thing”.

What you present is a conflict of rights between the first and second amendments. How do we resolve that?

If the government passes a law that you can not keep and bear arms on someone else’s property if they don’t want you to, is that a government infringement of “the right of the people to keep and bear arms”?

“It’s really simple.”

I disagree.

It’s very simple. If I don’t want people to open carry guns on my property, I have the right to tell them to leave my property if they are open carrying. Also, If I don’t what people wearing red shirts, I can do the same. It’s my property. I get to make the rules.

And all property owned by someone other than the government is private property. That includes private property as “public spaces” like your local barber shop, or wal-mart, or a private school.

The constitution strongly protects propery rights:
https://www.cato.org/cato-handbook-policymakers/cato-handbook-policy-makers-8th-edition-2017/property-rights-constitution

And I didn’t mention Conceal Carry. A business also has the right to say nobody can carry a concealed gun, or wear blue underwear, on their property. However, those two are harder to find. And if found, the property owner has the right to require you to leave their property.

This is very simple stuff once one understands the foundational principles on which our rights are protected. On your property, your rights trump the rights of others on your property, assuming you are not violating their rights by forcing them to be on your property.

How is that so? Stipulating it for now, “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” is a second amendment thing and more clearly stated than what you call “a first amendment thing”

If a person is in your house with a gun, you have every right to ask them to either put the gun outside somewhere or require them to leave the premises. That is true with all privately owned property. The property owner is sorta god on their own property, even if it is a publicly accessible place, like the common areas of a shopping mall. If one disagrees with their rule, they have the option of not going there.

“And once you leave the street and walk into a private business, you are subject to their rules.”

"Where that authoritatively written?"

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Read the signs in my #44.

Texas is a strong Property Rights State. I could post such signs at the entrance to my long driveway, if I wished -- and they would carry the full force of Texas trespass law. But, I won't so insult my friends and relatives -- who know they're welcome on my place (and are not trespassing)!

So -- I posted a simple, "No Trespassing" sign (which bears the same force of Texas law) for the edification of solicitors, Jehovah's Witnesses, and such...

TXnMA