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Reminder to Liberals: The USA Is Not a Democracy
americanthinker.com ^ | 9/7/2019 | R. Quinn Kennedy

Posted on 09/07/2019 11:33:55 AM PDT by rktman

Semantic infiltration within the political realm is typically defined, in its various forms, as unknowingly adopting the terms used by an opponent in such a way as to undermines one's own argument.

With the help of their cronies in the mainstream media, leftists are exceptionally good at semantic infiltration. Take, for example, the words "illegal alien." The term is simple enough. When a citizen from a foreign country enters a country not of his origin, he is alien to that newly entered country because, by birth, he is not a citizen of it. When the individual has entered the new country in violation of that country's immigration laws, he can be properly termed an "illegal alien."

Throughout the late 1990s, in order to shift the emphasis away from the very real fact that Mexican nationals crossing the border into the United States were doing so illegally, the Left coined the disingenuous term "undocumented immigrants." The mainstream media, clearly understanding Nazi Germany's propaganda techniques used to influence public perception, began repeating the term "undocumented immigrant" relentlessly.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; republic
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To: SkyDancer

the Constitution, Bill of Right and the Declaration of Independence


Note: there are only 2 documents (the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence). The “Bill of Rights” are the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution. Sort of like saying we are a democracy.


41 posted on 09/07/2019 1:23:33 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Jacquerie
Since passage of the 17th Amendment, it is fair to say we are a democratic republic. And the National Popular Vote Movement is doing far too well.

That will be interesting to see - a National Security State with no locks on the doors, a wrecked economy and many more enemy combatants in congress and the White House. Justa matter of time imo. When Texas goes blue, (very soon) it’s over.

42 posted on 09/07/2019 1:27:25 PM PDT by atc23
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To: rktman

I grew up listening to the late Mark Scott on Detroit talk radio. He was tea party long before there was a tea party.

He used the term Constitutionally Limited Republic to describe the United States.

I agree with him.


43 posted on 09/07/2019 1:29:25 PM PDT by cyclotic (Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: rktman

Another reminder to liberals: when the Constitution says “The People” it means the AMERICAN People.


44 posted on 09/07/2019 1:39:17 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: PIF

But it’s still called the Bill of Rights.


45 posted on 09/07/2019 1:39:51 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: rktman

Yes, it is a Constitutional Republic, a decidedly different thing from a democracy.

JoMa


46 posted on 09/07/2019 2:09:49 PM PDT by joma89
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To: rktman
Isn’t a republic a type of democracy?

Yes, we are not a DIRECT democracy but I find this type of hair splitting and word parsing to be quite silly

47 posted on 09/07/2019 2:10:52 PM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people -Socrates)
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To: Rashputin
making sure the little people never again allow an outsider to become president. I wonder how and why the Deep State allowed Trump to be elected at all. And if we could replicate the conditions that pushed Trump past the Deep State next year.
48 posted on 09/07/2019 2:10:55 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: rktman

Read Democracy in America, Alexis deTouqueville. 2000 years ago.

America is intended to be a DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY with a Representative form of government.

In a Democratic Society there is near pure Direct Democracy. Each person, including those not registered to vote, including children, including exfelons, including legal and illegal immigrants votes EVERY DAY with the feet where to live, where to work, where to pray, where to play, where to shop ... big box or boutique.

In a Democratic Society there is near pure Direct Democracy. Each person votes with their money what to buy ... or to save and not buy. They vote domestic or foreign. They voter generic or brand name.

GOVERNMENT is quite different. Regardless of whether the government is democratic or republican or a mix, the role of government is to limit Direct Democracy with the RULE OF LAW. The rule of law means that Clinton and Trump should obey exactly the same laws as you and me. The rich and powerful, the establishment, should obey exactly the same laws as the middle class and poor. Those we feel sorry for should obey exactly the same laws as those we detest.

Both Conservatives and classical liberals and libertarians and populists and a common interest is getting beyond the obsessive focus on government and spread the word of a DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY.


49 posted on 09/07/2019 2:12:14 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: SkyDancer

The Founders loathed democracy, knowing it always ends up in chaos and tyranny.

That’s why they founded a constitutional republic of strictly enumerated powers which can be found in USC Article 1, Section 8. The Tenth Amendment puts the icing on the cake.


50 posted on 09/07/2019 2:14:18 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: huckfillary

We are a Democracy and a Constitutional republic simultaneously. Neither is mutually exclusive.


51 posted on 09/07/2019 2:15:34 PM PDT by one4perl
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To: rktman
Isn’t a republic a type of democracy?

Yes, we are not a DIRECT democracy but I find this type of hair splitting and word parsing to be quite silly

52 posted on 09/07/2019 2:16:13 PM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people -Socrates)
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To: rktman

Our country is a constitutional republic. The only Democrat liberals want is a major in their favor. Because they believe they are in the majority of political opinion, the assume an electoral system conducted under majority rule will deliver unending control. If we were (as they define it) a democracy (majority) rule, they would be claiming tyranny for lack of representation. As President Trump tightens and enforces immigration policy , we have seen opposition using “state’s rights” to avoid compliance. “State’s rights”,yes the same States rights yet called a tool of racist States to block civil rights and maintain institutional discrimination.


53 posted on 09/07/2019 2:16:32 PM PDT by jmclemore (Go Trump)
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To: rktman
The reason is because of the astonishing success the Left has had using semantic infiltration to frame our form of government as a democracy rather than using the correct term, "representative republic."

Bob Kennedy is doing the same semantic infiltration the left is doing.

The correct term for America's form of government is "Constitutional Republic".

The Constitution sets forth the aforementioned representation within the Republic it establishes. Furthermore, without the Constitution being primary there would be no representation. The restraints on the government in the Constitution is nullified with the use of "representative republic" and such a form of government dictates that it must be nullified as there is no controlling authority over Congress and Congress' will, and power, is preeminent and unlimited.

His use of the wrong term indicates that "representation" has precedence over the Constitution, meaning Congress can bypass the Constitution without regards to its safeguards guaranteed to Citizens.

For instance, if a majority of representatives in Congress decide to ignore the Constitution's safeguards and establish legislation that Americans no longer have the right to keep and bear arms because America is a "representative republic" and 'the representatives have spoken'...well, legislative tyranny is just as effective as executive or judicial tyranny and a "representative republic" with no controls, such as those established in the Constitution, leads to exactly that.

The horse comes before the cart not after it and Mr. Kennedy, like the left with their use of semantics, has put the cart before the horse and is guilty of doing the very same thing the left does.

Sadly, there are people right here on FR who believe the same way he does and they are just as wrong as he is in his misuse on the term for America's form of government.

JMO, YMMV

54 posted on 09/07/2019 2:33:35 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rktman

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“Liberals” are not ‘Liberal’ either!

They’re all tyrants!


55 posted on 09/07/2019 2:36:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (re)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

.>> “Isn’t a republic a type of democracy?” <<

Absolutely not!

Democracy is always tyranny!
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56 posted on 09/07/2019 2:38:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (re)
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To: joma89

But not a decidedly different thing from a representative democracy.
There is nothing magical or sacred about a republic. To wit: The REPUBLIC of Cuba, The Union of Soviet Socialist REPUBLICS, The People’s REPUBLIC of China, The Islamic REPUBLIC of Iran, The Socialist REPUBLIC of Vietnam.
Any excrementhole state can call itself a “republic.”


57 posted on 09/07/2019 2:47:00 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: FormerFRLurker
IMHo, it's most likely a combination of arrogance, their own propagandists having gotten lazy, fat, and happy, along with the Deep State believing their own propaganda.

The single most important thing, though, is their arrogance that grew out of their belief that after getting Clinton in, controlling Dub for most of his eight years, then getting Obama in spite of the fact he wasn't even eligible.

They 'knew' they had won a permanent victory and any challenge to them was a joke.

58 posted on 09/07/2019 2:52:19 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: SkyDancer

But it’s still called the Bill of Rights.


misnomer used by some people - like the US is a Democracy. If using one is wrong, so is using the other - since neither are true.

It is not a separate document and is called properly the Constitution: Amendments to the Constitution; Article I. - X.

Like the word democracy does not appear in the Constitution, so neither does the so-called Bill of Rights label.

That label makes us imagine we have actual rights in law, but we do not, since we are not named in the Constitution nor do we have individual signed and ratified treaties with the US government.

In law, “only Treaty tribes have Rights guaranteed by the Constitution, all others” (us) “have mere privileges” (like the 2A) “which can be revoked at any given time” - SCOTUS so ruled three times in separate cases.


59 posted on 09/07/2019 2:56:32 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rktman

Always remember my 4th grade teacher smiling and saying “This is not a democracy” when she’d tell us to do something we didn’t want to. It was a reminder to what we’d been taught that the USA is a Republic.

We knew it as 4th graders.

Liberals? Ha.


60 posted on 09/07/2019 3:19:15 PM PDT by simpson96
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