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To: billyboy15; fuzzylogic

https://fortune.com/2019/07/31/yes-stocks-are-overvalued-but-by-how-much-heres-what-history-tells-us/
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https://www.independentadvisorthayes.com/investing-overpriced-stock-market/
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https://www.barrons.com/articles/who-says-this-market-is-overpriced-1525716705
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-stock-market-indicator-hasnt-been-so-inflated-since-the-internet-bubble-top-2018-09-18

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37 posted on 09/05/2019 3:58:22 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill; billyboy15; fuzzylogic

“Want more?”

Three of those linked articles are all based on exactly the same metric, Robert Shiller’s cyclically-adjusted price-to-earnings (CAPE) ratio.

The Barron’s article also looks at the CAPE ratio but concludes that it’s misleading. And in fact it contradicts the claim that the market is overpriced:

“..people are looking at the CAPE [cylically adjusted P/E] ratio, which looks really expensive using the average of the past 10 years. Of course it does, because it includes 2008 and 2009. As soon as that rolls forward, the P/E falls.”

“Today, on the real earnings yield, the market is almost exactly at its long-term average.... Right now, our 10-year expected return is 7% [a year]. A lot of our competitors have an average expectation of 5% to 6%, because they say the market is at a high valuation.”


46 posted on 09/05/2019 4:37:58 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: carriage_hill

That’s fine...but I can look at many specific stocks & their respective metrics and see that there’s no way they’re expensive. It depends on the market sector - as a whole I don’t believe the entire market is in a big bubble.


47 posted on 09/05/2019 4:51:13 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: carriage_hill

See #.

The markets will continue to rise and fall, of this I have no doubt.

However, history tells us that on average the markets advance 2 of every 3 days.

A long term view in a balanced and managed portfolio will succeed.

Money needed in next 5 yrs should neverbe invested.


54 posted on 09/06/2019 1:06:29 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: carriage_hill
Are you suggesting that we should take investment advice from media outlets which promote the democrat party's agenda?

The stock market could crash if Donald Trump is elected president    (Marketwatch November 1, 2016)

“…the election of Donald Trump in the U.S. — would likely cause the stock market to crash and plunge the world into recession.”

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A Huge Hedge Fund Says Stocks Will Crash if Donald Trump Wins    (Fortune November 8, 2016)

“If Donald Trump wins the election, kiss your 401(k) goodbye.”


55 posted on 09/06/2019 3:17:50 AM PDT by greedo
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