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What to Expect When You're Expecting FISA Abuse
Real Clear Politics ^ | September 03, 2019 | Charles Lipson

Posted on 09/03/2019 3:51:56 PM PDT by billorites

Now that James Comey’s corruption of the FBI has been exposed, the country awaits the next report from Inspector General Michael Horowitz. This one will deal with government misrepresentations to the special court that grants secret surveillance warrants on foreign agents in the United States.

To launch a counter-intelligence investigation on an American citizen, like Carter Page, the Department of Justice applies to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. All warrants require accuracy and integrity, but those to the FISA court should meet an even-higher standard. Why? Because, unlike criminal warrants, FISA warrants remain hidden. The goal is to “spy on spies,” not haul them into court, so the application will remain secret, never challenged by a defense attorney at trial.

That’s why the DoJ and FBI must certify, in writing, that the FISA application is truthful and complete and that the evidence it presents has been thoroughly vetted by the bureau. That’s what the Obama administration’s top law-enforcement officials did when they wanted to spy on Carter Page. It is becoming increasingly clear they were lying.

Apparently, the court turned down the initial application — a very rare event — so the FBI and DoJ tried again. This time they bulked up the application with details from Christopher Steele’s dirty dossier. The dossier was paid for by Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee, using two cut-outs (the DNC’s law firm, Perkins Coie, and the opposition research firm it hired, Glenn Simpson’s FusionGPS). The FBI’s second-in-command, Andrew McCabe, told Congress that the warrant would not have been granted without the dossier.

The FBI, which also paid Steele as a “confidential human source,” never verified the dossier and did not even try until after the warrant was issued. The bureau hid the Clinton campaign’s involvement in a murky footnote.

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1 posted on 09/03/2019 3:51:56 PM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites
Like Instapundit sez...

"Read the whole thang."

2 posted on 09/03/2019 3:52:58 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

As long as the “right people” are abusing, they can abuse all they want. Apparently the right people abused and the same right people are investigating...and investigating and talking about investigating...

We have no justice and therefore no peace.


3 posted on 09/03/2019 4:01:41 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Vote for President Trump in 2020 or end up equally miserable, no rights, and eating zoo animals)
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Smilin’ John Roberts has oversight over the FISA court so expect nothing to change.


4 posted on 09/03/2019 4:04:55 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

The fact he ignored this for 15 months since the information has been known is all you need to down about this weak ass spineless chief.


5 posted on 09/03/2019 4:07:18 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: billorites

“The FBI, which also paid Steele as a “confidential human source,” never verified the dossier”

NO dammit. It wasn’t that they never verified it. THEY created it with co-conspirators. They weren’t tricked. It was THEIR scam they were running on the FISA court as part of the coup!!!

This is damage control. Pretending they were sloppy, and probably duped.


6 posted on 09/03/2019 4:08:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: billorites

Lindsey Graham is going to call out Judge Roberts on this? It will be interesting to see what Robert’s response will be.


7 posted on 09/03/2019 4:34:30 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: billorites

I can’t help but notice Barr isn’t even issuing excuses anymore.


8 posted on 09/03/2019 4:39:51 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: billorites
Because, unlike criminal warrants, FISA warrants remain hidden.

Plenty of criminal warrants stay hidden too.

And no warrant is required to use human resources.

Making this an outrage over secret spying/snooping misses the boat. The government revolted against the will of the people. The government, OUR government, worked mightily to throw OUR election so it would get ITS way.

Then it lied about that and hamstringed the elected president with abuse of legal process. "The process IS the punishment," except this time not just against Trump, but against the whole country.

Illegal spying (if there even was illegal spying) is NOT THE ISSUE.

9 posted on 09/03/2019 4:45:47 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: CincyRichieRich

10 posted on 09/03/2019 5:05:14 PM PDT by Bobalu (The Nobel Peace Prize doesn't deserve Trump.)
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To: Cboldt

T H A N K Y O U ! ! T H A N K Y O U ! ! T H A N K Y O U ! !


11 posted on 09/03/2019 5:16:36 PM PDT by happytrumper
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To: billorites

Our government is corrupt, top to bottom. No matter who has the majority in Congress, no matter who is in the White House. There is no fixing this.


12 posted on 09/03/2019 5:55:27 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Bobalu

Truth bomb!


13 posted on 09/03/2019 6:08:11 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: wastoute

I forgot, what is Barr’s bosses name?


14 posted on 09/03/2019 6:10:04 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: DesertRhino

Yes. I don’t know if the FBI/Intel people manufactured the dossier claims themselves, but they absolutely knew it lacked all credibility and they created the scheme of plausible deniability to make it appear as if they were doing legitimate work when they knew it was political espionage (at the least).

The Dossier was innuendo and old rumors and salacious claims. This info was laundered through several cutouts. But we’re supposed to believe that Steele’s move from a paid FBI adviser to a freelancer just weeks before the Dossier memos started to flow was some kind of coincidence? Hardly. They intentionally moved him off the FBI payroll to give the appearance of arms length, using Steele’s resume with the MI6 to give it the false imprimatur of ‘intelligence information’.

Some of the claims, such as Trump’s computers relaying info with a Russian bank, had been previously communicated to the FBI (by Clinton’s team) and shown to be nothing at all. When this claim appeared a second time in the Steele memos it is a clear give-away, and it also punches a hole in the FBI’s claims. When they saw this claim appear a second time, already knowing they had checked it out, the credibility of all the information is immediately suspect.
But they carried on pretending it was legitimate. Some of the claims, such as the existence of a ‘pee tape’, were old rumors. Even Trump’s lawyer Cohen testified to Congress that this rumor was many years old and that as a private citizen Trump tried to track the source of it, and that nobody has ever come forward to ask for money for a tape or to blackmail Trump.

There are documents from the State Dept that reference a “2nd Dossier” that flows from the Sydney Blumenthal circle. It is possible that Clinton confidants manufactured and/or assembled many of the Steele claims but realizing they could not pass them off on their own engineered the hiring of the DC law firm, which hired FusionGPS, which then hired Steele as part of the effort to obscure the document’s origins and political nature. Of course, the positioning of the Ohr’s and Steele as rungs in that network are also give-aways. The mass media has been completely derelict in attempting to uncover the nature of this scheme. The 4th estate was supposed to be a check against government abuse, but they have been complicit - thus, the last ditch effort by the NYT to suddenly claim years after the fact that the dossier may have been “Russian disinformation”. Nonsense, this is the NYT covering-up their own complicity.


15 posted on 09/03/2019 6:14:12 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Rocky

AFGE types rarely work.


16 posted on 09/03/2019 6:38:05 PM PDT by Lumper20 (Our Congress must be stripped of FERS and AFGE union insurance..)
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To: billorites

From day one the FISA process had great potential for abuse.

Now that the abuse has happened (surprise, surprise, surprise!) everyone associated with it must go to jail.

End of story.

Or—FISA must be abolished.

There is no middle ground on this one.


17 posted on 09/03/2019 6:46:20 PM PDT by cgbg (Democracy dies in darkness when Bezos bans books.)
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To: DesertRhino

Its probably worse than that - The FISA court judges are probably in on the whole thing - rotten to the core. Perhaps because of this John Roberts is now president Trump’s puppet so he’ll pay the price of people like me being pissed Barr isn’t releasing anything while he gets ruling that go his way - I guess we’ll know when Justice Roberts suddenly resigns for health reasons or something.


18 posted on 09/03/2019 7:03:36 PM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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To: billorites

You just know they invented FISA warrants to spy directly on Donald Trump.

Locate the resulting material, and prove it. Then prove Hillary got a copy.

Damn. Enough already.


19 posted on 09/03/2019 7:59:33 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Epstein proves it's all a charade.)
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20 posted on 09/03/2019 8:55:08 PM PDT by bitt (OUR government tried to overthrow OUR election; failed, then abused legal process to hamstring DJT)
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