Skip to comments.Hebron 1929, Tlaib-Omar 2019, a Jew-hating, Jihadist-Marxist alliance
Posted on 08/24/2019 2:08:19 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
Ninety years ago, late August, 1929, the U.S. Beatrice Daily Sun (Beatrice, Nebraska), proclaimed, MOSLEMS SATE BLOOD LUST. Even Little Children Die By Knife in Jehad (Aug. 29, 1929; p.8). This brief report conveyed with grisly accuracy the Arab Muslim ...depredations....
In stark contrast to the evocative drawings of Palestinian Jewish artist Nachum Gutman, less than a week after the 1929 jihad carnage ended on August 29th, Morning Freiheit, the New York City-based, official Communist party Jewish [Yiddish] language newspaper, published the first of two vicious Der Stürmer-like cartoons (Sept. 4, 1929; the second appearing Sept. 19th) condemning the self-defensive actions of Mandatory Palestines Jews....
Ex-Communist apostate Whittaker Chambers, in his searing 1952 autobiography Witness commented acidly about the same perverse 1929 American Communist Party phenomenon having served then as a writer/editor for the English language Communist organ Daily Worker:
Arab outrages were occurring in Palestine. The Communist International chose that moment to call for the formation of a Soviet Arabistan, and to attack the Zionists. Day after day bludgeoning stories and editorial along this mad line appeared in the Daily Worker. Editing them seemed less like a peculiarly trying exercise in party discipline than horseplay in a mental home.
Current U.S. Muslim Congresswomen Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar are Steeles ideological heirs on the Left (here; here), whose words and actions are much more blatantly pro-jihadist (here; here) and Antisemitic (here; here).
The BDS movement which both women aggressively support is a toxic amalgam of annihilationist Jew-haters, which includes operatives from the Marxist terror organization PFLP, and two major, overt jihad terror organizations, Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad....
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When will the Jewish community figure out that the Left HATES them? The Jews have such trouble knowing who their friends are. That’s because since the world hates them, they generally have none - except One. Soon they will find out who their Friend really is.
The “community” is a chimera. There is no collective mind. Individuals wake up. Some sooner, some later, some never. But it’s never put to a vote.
Someday, their Messiah, Yeshua Hamashiach, will gather all of Israel as a hen gathers her chicks by God’s unfathomable mercy and grace.
Pardon me for my skepticism, but enough Jews were butchered in this feller’s name to justify said skepticism. We’ll see what finally happens, and future speculation is a futile exercise. Shall we set up a betting pool?
For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.Romans 11:25-27.
Biblical fulfillment (in the future) of the Biblical prophesy of Romans 11:
After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree.Revelation 7:1-8.
Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, saying, Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed [saved] the servants of our God on their foreheads.
And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:
of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were [a]sealed; of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed.
You'll have to pay me off in Heaven since that's where we'll be when God fulfills this promise to Israel (unlike man, God ALWAYS keeps his promises).
Five bucks. You accept Romans and Revelations as biblical. I do not. So your proof is only proof to your satisfaction, which is the opposite of proof. You have faith. I have faith. But we believe in different things.
Right, but my faith is based on immutable Biblical promises that have been proven true over the last 4000 years.
What is your faith based on?
The Bible, the Talmud, the Kaballah, Chassidus...
But here’s a news flash. We are discussing politics here. If you want to discuss religion, go to discussion forums about religion. If I want, I will discuss religion there, too. But that is not the subject of this thread, nor of this forum, and it’s more than a little obnoxious for you to turn this into a discussion of your religion. Or religion altogether. Please stop it.
At present, the reason Israel continues to exist is because of enormous good will from the Christian community.
You probably believe this good will is not needed. We will see what happens when some future radical leftist President tells the Muslim states “Do what you want. We will not lift a finger in response.”
Who said anything about religion? YOU were the one that bought up faith here, not me. And then you challenged my faith vs. your faith.
Quit setting up a challenges and then chickening out in the guise some kind of self-righteous diatribe.
The subject here is the Jews and their fate - absolutely relevant to their Messiah and the Bible.
Quit baiting and switching. If you’re a sniper, then get lost.
I appreciate the good will of the Christian community. It plays a big part in American politics and America’s relationship with Israel.
But that good will did not always exist. Peter the Hermit spread his ‘good will’ up and down the Rhine Valley leaving death and destruction to thousands, then attacked the Muslim Empire and his entire makeshift host was destroyed in short order. But he returned to Europe with the loot he had acquired on the Rhine, and used it to build a monastery, where he lived out his life in pious devotion.
I cannot blame present-day American Christians for his crimes, any more than I can blame Greek Orthodox Christians for the depredations of Bogdan Chmelnicki.
At the same time, these crimes were committed in the name of your savior, which is part of the reason he is not mine.
But let’s separate our theological perspectives, which is all that is about, from the relationship between present-day American Christians and the State of Israel.
I like and respect American Christians, and their support for my chosen home is a good thing. But if that support is predicated on the notion that because of this good will, I will eventually accept Jesus as my lord and savior, the answer is no, for reasons best left to a discussion of theology. If that alters our relationship for the worst, so be it.
Now as for the United States telling the Muslim states “Do what you want. We will not lift a finger in response,” that already happened in 1948. The Arab states closed in for the kill. The outgoing British, then under the leftist Labour government, said “do what you want” and didn’t lift a finger in response, other than to allow their officers to stay at their respective commands in the attacking Arab League. The UN put an arms blockade around the Middle East which the Arab states easily circumvented, and the infant State of Israel, hard put to find adequate arms because of the blockade, was expected to be smothered in its cradle. But it was not. The conflict was bloody, but Israel survived and even won a few. Why is too complicated a mix of theology and pragmatism to get into. But in sum it wasn’t because of any support by any temporal power.
Quite a few books have been written by people who had set out to disprove the historicity of the NT, and as a result of their investigations became Christians. For example,
Sir William Mitchell Ramsay, a 19th Century English historian and prolific writer, held a pervasive anti-Biblical bias. He believed the historical accounts in the Book of Acts were written in the mid-2nd Century. Ramsay was skeptical of Lukes authorship and the historicity of the Book of Acts, and he set out to prove his suspicions. He began a detailed study of the archaeological evidence, and eventually came to an illuminating conclusion: the historical and archaeological evidence supported Lukes 1st Century authorship and historical reliability:
(There are) reasons for placing the author of Acts among the historians of the first rank (Sir William Ramsay, St. Paul the Traveler and the Roman Citizen, p. 4).
Ramsay became convinced of Lukes reliability based on the accurate description of historical events and settings. Ramsay wasnt the only scholar to be impressed by Lukes accuracy:One of the most remarkable tokens of (Lukes) accuracy is his sure familiarity with the proper titles of all the notable persons who are mentioned . . . Cyprus, for example, which was an imperial province until 22 BC, became a senatorial province in that year, and was therefore governed no longer by an imperial legate but by a proconsul. And so, when Paul and Barnabas arrived in Cyprus about AD 47, it was the proconsul Sergius Paullus whom they met . . . (F.F. Bruce, The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?, p. 82).
Josh McDowell also set out to disprove the NT and became a Christian. He ended up authoring one of the most authoritative Christian apologetics, Evidence That Demands a Verdict. Besides the Book of Acts, Luke wrote one of the four Gospel accounts.
Another book by a one time atheist is Lee Strobel. He was stunned when his wife became a Christian and decided to investigate it (in order to disprove of course). As a lawyer, he analyses the question as one would a legal case in The Case for Christ. As he relates in the introduction:
I plunged into the case with more vigor than with any story I had ever pursued. I applied the training I had received at Yale Law School as well as my experience as legal affairs editor of the Chicago Tribune. And over time the evidence of the worldof history, of science, of philosophy, of psychologybegan to point toward the unthinkable.
Well, that’s all well enough for you. I’m sure Jim would love to discuss it with you on a religion thread. I really don’t care to get into religious discussions, though. Unfortunately, this thread has been sidetracked into that once already. So I’ll pass without further comment.
Here is the original mention of faith, initiated by you.
I responded to it briefly, and now you won’t leave it alone. Sorry I took the bait. Sorry someone who purports to be motivated by faith has to resort to such puerile taunts as “chicken” to keep a discussion I don’t care for going. Here’s the bottom line. I bet five bucks that the Messianic era will happen otherwise than as you say. How much you want to bet?
"Faith " isn't "religion". But if you want to make an issue of it, YOU were the first one on this thread to mention "faith" and the only one to mention "religion".
You, Post #7: Five bucks. You accept Romans and Revelations as biblical. I do not. So your proof is only proof to your satisfaction, which is the opposite of proof. You have faith. I have faith. But we believe in different things.
You challenged me and then later, I in turn challenged you and you went off the rails.
Now you're back. Don't know why. Anyway, the "proof" you're looking for - the actual event - will, as I said, be after the saints have been taken up to Heaven by Jesus and the unimaginable horror of the tribulation has begun. Something about all of that will bring all of Israel to their Yeshua Hamashiach. I will win that bet but, as I said, you'll have to pay me in Heaven becsue that's where I will be when all this stuff comes down.
And, OBTW, faith is substance that is not yet seen, so you need some kind of basis like a title deed that what you believe in actually exists. I challenged you with my title deed, the immutable Word of God and challenged you with what your faith is based on. That's when you came unglued.
Not sure what you're looking for now.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
Worth noting a boycott the US supported, though there were those who turned their eye.
It remained in legal effect until the 1950s, when the Soviets started shipping arms to Egypt via, I think, Czechoslovakia, at which point England and France allied with Israel for the Sinai campaign, ending the blockade while at the same time attracting Eisenhower’s ire. The US didn’t have the present-day special relationship with Israel until after the six-day war, although there were plenty of friendly back channels in the interim.
Your brain is farting. Please flatulate your fake distinctions elsewhere. Five bucks. Put up and shut up.
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