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Federal court undercuts progressive efforts to nullify Electoral College <tr>
Fox News ^ | August 22 2019 | Gregg Re

Posted on 08/22/2019 11:12:14 PM PDT by knighthawk

Federal court undercuts progressive efforts to nullify Electoral College, rules electors can vote freely

In a major blow to state-by-state progressive efforts to effectively replace the Electoral College with a nationwide popular vote, a federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday that presidential electors in the Electoral College have the absolute right to vote for presidential candidates of their choice.

Democrats have increasingly sought to erase the Electoral College's influence by promoting state laws that would force electors to vote for the national popular vote winner -- and those laws were now in jeopardy as a result of the court's ruling, legal experts said.

The decision, however, also raised the prospect that electors could legally defect at the last minute, and decide the occupant of the White House on their own in dramatic fashion, weeks after Election Day

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KEYWORDS: electoralcollege; faithlesselectors; judiciary; nationalpopularvote; npv
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1 posted on 08/22/2019 11:12:14 PM PDT by knighthawk
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Electors are definitely the weak link in the chain. Especially in this day and age of broken moral compasses and lawlessness


2 posted on 08/22/2019 11:28:35 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: knighthawk

Imagine that. A representative republic is indeed a representative republic........


3 posted on 08/22/2019 11:33:08 PM PDT by JParris
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Democrats have increasingly sought to erase the Electoral College’s influence by promoting state laws that would force electors to vote for the national popular vote winner — and those laws were now in jeopardy as a result of the court’s ruling, legal experts said.

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That’s the good news I’ve been waiting for.


4 posted on 08/22/2019 11:44:21 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: Moonman62

Electors need to be vetted. Faith Spotted Eagle might be a nice lady, but the Dems did a lousy job as our side did with the votes for Mailman’s Son in Texas


5 posted on 08/23/2019 12:12:55 AM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: knighthawk; All

“Winner-Take-All” Electoral Votes, as most States laws require, is also a MAJOR ATTACK on our Republic.
Simply take a look at a County Map of Presidential Votes.
‘Democracy’ is POISON to our Republic.


6 posted on 08/23/2019 12:27:58 AM PDT by 1_Of_We
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To: Moonman62; All

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oyIFqf3XH24Giant

Schoolhouse Rock—gonna send your vote to college


7 posted on 08/23/2019 12:34:55 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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Electoral Votes should be ‘Proportional’ in every State, not winner take all.


8 posted on 08/23/2019 1:04:37 AM PDT by 1_Of_We
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To: PrairieLady2

Agree,


9 posted on 08/23/2019 2:18:51 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: knighthawk
It was never about forcing electors to vote one way on another, it was about how electors were selected in the first place.

Each state party assembles a slate of electors, made up of state party members and approved by the party's candidate. These slates are partisan and predisposed to vote for their party's candidate. "Winner take all" elections simply means that the state-wide winner determines which slate, in entirety, goes to the Electoral College.

This ruling seems to be moot because it does nothing about HOW the electors are chosen. It only says that once chosen, they are free to vote how they please. Since they were chosen as partisan slates, how they vote isn't really in doubt.

Things like the NPV compact affect which partisan slate gets selected, not really how they will vote once selected, which should be a foregone conclusion.

-PJ

10 posted on 08/23/2019 3:09:33 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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The decision, however, also raised the prospect that electors could legally defect at the last minute

If I'm not mistaken, they have always had that right. People in my state who run for the job of an elector are life-long party members and active. Most would rather sever an arm than vote against their party.

11 posted on 08/23/2019 4:00:30 AM PDT by stevem
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You are not mistaken.


12 posted on 08/23/2019 4:07:30 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: 1_Of_We

Proportional is better than winner-take-all. But the congressional district method is even better.

The winner of each district within a state is awarded one electoral vote. The overall winner within that state is awarded the remaining two electoral votes as a bonus.


13 posted on 08/23/2019 4:08:14 AM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: 1_Of_We
Electoral Votes should be ‘Proportional’ in every State, not winner take all.

No it's the other way. All states should be winner take all. The states are electing the President not the people. So it makes no sense for a state to cast a partial vote for both candidates. The state popular vote decides how the state cast its one single vote. The electoral votes only compensates for the population differences of each state. This makes the larger populations states one vote count a little more because it has more people but the state is still only casting one vote. States that have proportional electoral allocation are not allowing their state to fully participate in the election of the president.

POTUS is President of the states, not president of the people. If we were to remove the concept of the electoral college it would not change the fact that the states are electing a president of the republic of states and what would remain would be an election where each state would cast only one electoral vote for the president no matter how large the states population. In simpler terms instead of the president being elected by the 270 vote electoral majority he would be elected with 26 or more of the 50 votes cast with a tie being decided by the house. 50 states 50 votes, majority wins. Removing the electoral college will never result in adding all the votes of all the states together because the president is president of the states not president of the people.

14 posted on 08/23/2019 5:11:07 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: stevem
" If I'm not mistaken, they have always had that right. People in my state who run for the job of an elector are life-long party members and active. Most would rather sever an arm than vote against their party. "

Correct. This decision only confirms the way things have always been.

15 posted on 08/23/2019 5:12:44 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: knighthawk

Electors disregard the will of their voters on pain of death.

There is consequence


16 posted on 08/23/2019 5:14:31 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.btyC. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: knighthawk

10th Circuit Court of Appeals.


17 posted on 08/23/2019 6:36:20 AM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: knighthawk
The racist pedolovers at the NY Times weighs in with a DNC propaganda headline:

Electoral College Members Can Defy Voters' Wishes, Court Rules

They're not even pretending any more.
18 posted on 08/23/2019 6:39:28 AM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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If they aren’t smart enough to explain how the EC works incorrectly, then they aren’t smart enough to listen to.


19 posted on 08/23/2019 8:08:29 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: precisionshootist

Your ‘Democratic’ Method is EXACTLY a large part of what is wrong with our current Republic.
Read the Constitution again. ALL of it.
POTUS is elected by the Electors of the States, not by the States.


20 posted on 08/23/2019 8:13:04 AM PDT by 1_Of_We
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