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BANNED: OMAR, TLAIB, GELLER, AND ME
FrontPage Magazine ^ | August 16, 2019 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 08/19/2019 8:27:51 AM PDT by SJackson

Should a country ban people who oppose its policies from entering?

The vehemently anti-Semitic and anti-Israel Representatives Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib have been banned from entering Israel, and Leftists are furious. Surely Israel, and its ally in the Oval Office, have made a major blunder, no? Not necessarily.

Rep. Justin Amash fumed: “Israel should stand up to President Trump and allow our colleagues to visit. Nobody has to agree with their opinions, but it will inevitably harm U.S.-Israel relations if members of Congress are banned from the country. We must find ways to come together; there’s enough division.”

Sure, but would Omar and Tlaib touring around Israel, providing grist for the mill of the Palestinian propaganda jihad and calling for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) measures against the Jewish state really help us “come together”?

After all, they were banned due to “suspected provocations and promotion of BDS.” And there is certainly no doubt that they would have promoted the genuinely neo-Nazi BDS movement while in Israel. Is Israel, or any other state, really obligated to allow entry to anyone who is its implacable foe, dedicated to its ultimate destruction?

Rep. David Cicilline think so. “This is a grave mistake by the Israeli government,” he thundered. “Democracy is about accepting that others don’t always share your views and respecting the right to disagree.” Presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren also cast aspersions on Israeli democracy, tut-tutting that “Israel doesn't advance its case as a tolerant democracy or unwavering US ally by barring elected members of Congress from visiting because of their political views.”

Did Cicilline, Warren, or anyone else question Britain’s commitment to democracy when the British Home Office banned Pamela Geller and me from entering that country? Of course not. Have they ever questioned the ever-lengthening line of foes of jihad terror that Britain has banned? Not at all.

When Geller and I were banned from Britain in 2013, I received an official letter from the British Home Office, notifying me that I would not be allowed to enter the country on the grounds that “your presence here is not conducive to the public good.” The letter to me said:

You are reported to have stated the following:

[Islam] is a religion and is a belief system that mandates warfare against unbelievers for the purpose for establishing a societal model that is absolutely incompatible with Western society because media and general government unwillingness to face the sources of Islamic terrorism these things remain largely unknown.

I said no such thing, of course. I generally speak and write in coherent English. But the point is clear enough. I certainly have pointed out that Islam mandates warfare against unbelievers. This is not really a controversial point to anyone who has studied Islam at all. No one who is honest can actually deny that Islam has doctrines of warfare against unbelievers.

But the British government is committed to ignoring and denying that Islam teaches violence, and so I was banned. This was a parallel act to the present-day banning of Tlaib and Omar from entering Israel, isn’t it? I opposed the British government, and so was banned, and they oppose the Israeli government, and so they were banned. Thus I can’t consistently support the banning of Tlaib and Omar without endorsing my own banning from Britain, right?

Wrong. Here is the difference: Tlaib and Omar support a movement that is trying to bring about Israel’s destruction. They have both surrounded themselves with individuals who have advocated and are working toward that destruction. Israel is under no obligation to welcome its enemies, any more than any other country is.

In contrast, Pamela Geller I opposed the mass Muslim migration that is destroying the British national character and the willful ignorance regarding the motivating ideology behind the jihad terror threat that has made all British citizens more vulnerable than they used to be or need to be. Geller and I wanted to work toward the protection and defense of Britain, not its destruction.

The British government did not and does not see it that way. As far as it is concerned, Pamela Geller and I are potentially threatening to its continued peace and harmony, just as Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are to the peace and harmony of Israel.

But the truth cannot be suppressed forever, and can be discovered in this case by a simple pair of hypotheticals. Imagine if both the British government and the Israeli government continue on the paths they’re on: the British continuing to ignore the genuine root causes of jihad terror and turning the other way as Muslim rape gangs operate, and the Israelis continuing to fight back against BDS and Palestinian propaganda. Which state is likely to be healthier in five years, or ten?

The answer is clear in both cases. Britain has chosen the path of national suicide, banning its friends and admitting all too many of its foes (numerous jihadis have been admitted into the country with no questions asked). Israel, by contrast, is determined to survive. Without the will to live, what will become of Britain?


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1 posted on 08/19/2019 8:27:51 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

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2 posted on 08/19/2019 8:29:05 AM PDT by SJackson (If youÂ’re wondering whatÂ’s wrong with capitalism, itÂ’s made in Hong Kong, B. Sanders, when in Rus)
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Well, since Islam IS a Death Cult and I have stated so many times, I guess I’ve self-banned myself from any places where Islam is tolerated, embraced or promoted.

I can live with that. ;)


3 posted on 08/19/2019 8:34:55 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (We come from the earth, we return to the earth, and in between we garden.~Alfred Austin)
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To: SJackson

Should a country ban people who oppose its policies from entering?


A better question: Should my opinion warrant any merit regarding said question if I am not a citizen of the country in question?


4 posted on 08/19/2019 8:35:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: SJackson

“Rep. Justin Amash fumed: “...it will inevitably harm U.S.-Israel relations if members of Congress are banned from the country.”

You won’t be colleagues much longer.


5 posted on 08/19/2019 8:36:09 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: SJackson

USA and most countries have similar or stronger laws
against letting hostile people or enemy agents in

its not even a discussion item

except if and when Jerusalem does it

this reveals anti-Semitism as much as anything, when only the Jews get criticized or “discussed” or threatened for trying to defend themselves


6 posted on 08/19/2019 8:41:28 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SJackson

Add me please.

And incitement to violence against Israelis is good enough grounds to keep them out.

Because that is what they’re doing.

And they know that.


7 posted on 08/19/2019 8:41:31 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: SJackson

THe contrast is even more stark. Israel was happy to let Tlaib in, even though she has those hateful views of them; their ONLY stipulation was that she not actively meet with people violently trying to destroy the country.

She refused, saying that such restrictions were too onerous for her. In other words, admitting that her purpose was to promote insurrection. She wasn’t going to strap bombs on herself, but she was working with people who do.

If a month before 9/11, we had known the names of the terrorists, and Trump was president, and he had called for their deportation — the modern democratic party would have opposed him, called for impeachment, and filed lawsuits blocking his order, and some liberal judge would have agreed, and the 9/11 attacks would have happened anyway.

But this same group of democrats who now scream that they should have free access to interfere in Israel’s election and existence, voted to refuse Netanyhu’s visit to our country, and a meeting with the congress.


8 posted on 08/19/2019 8:46:16 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SJackson
Should a country ban people who oppose its policies from entering?

Only a simple mind jackass would ask such a stupid question. The answer is YES! Why invite possible terrorists.

9 posted on 08/19/2019 9:07:19 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Eleutheria5

“Rep. Justin Amash fumed: “...it will inevitably harm U.S.-Israel relations if members of Congress are banned from the country.”

You won’t be colleagues much longer.

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10 posted on 08/19/2019 9:14:04 AM PDT by thinden
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To: thinden

India plans huge detention camps for illegal migrants; Muslims are main target
BARENAKEDISLAM ^ | AUGUST 19, 2019
FR Posted on 08/19/2019 1:53:13 AM PDT by robowombat

More than 4 million people in India, mostly Muslims, are at risk of being declared foreign migrants as the government pushes a hard-line Hindu nationalist agenda that has challenged the country’s pluralist traditions and aims to redefine what it means to be Indian.

NY Times (h/t SBS) The hunt for migrants is unfolding in Assam, near the borders with Myanmar and Bangladesh. State authorities are rapidly expanding foreigner tribunals and planning to build huge new detention camps.

Hundreds of people have been arrested on suspicion of being a foreign migrant — including a Muslim veteran of the Indian army.

Local activists and lawyers say the pain of being left off a preliminary list of citizens and the prospect of being thrown into jail have driven dozens to suicide. But the governing party of Prime Minister Narendra Modi is not backing down.

Instead, it is vowing to bring this campaign to force people to prove they are citizens to other parts of India, part of a far-reaching Hindu nationalist program fueled by Modi’s sweeping reelection victory in May and his stratospheric popularity.

Members of India’s Muslim minority are growing more fearful by the day.

Less than two weeks ago, Modi unilaterally wiped out the statehood of India’s only Muslim-majority state, Jammu and Kashmir, removing its special autonomy and turning it into a federal territory without any consultation with local leaders — many of whom have since been arrested.


11 posted on 08/19/2019 9:27:11 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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A Force Ten hurricane is blowing in. I just cant wait til the Democraps find out (if ever) that they have NO partners in their stupid globalism.

It’s happening so fast, it’s difficult to compose a definitive thread.......but the overwrought global push for open borders has turned the globe into Trumpland. They are Trump-wannabes——candidates swept to victories in the UK, France, Italy, Hungary, Sweden, Poland and the Netherlands. The new EU political stars are Salvini, Le Pen, Farage and Hungary’s nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orban. All are in talks to form a team of international nationalist leaders....and Trump is the acknowledged world leader..

<><> Mette Frederiksen: the anti-immigration left leader set to win power in Denmark. Under her leadership, the SD have called for a cap on “non-western immigrants”, for asylum seekers to be expelled to a reception centre in North Africa, and for all immigrants to be forced to work 37 hours a week in exchange for benefits.

<><>In France, President Emmanuel Macron’s party suffered a humiliating defeat to Marine Le Pen.

<><>In the U.K., Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage won a landslide victory in the EU Parliament,
leading a Trump-like party that was established just six weeks ago.

<><>Boris Johnson, the Trump-like former mayor of London, emerged, against all odds, as the new prime minister of Britain.

<><>In Italy, Matteo Salvini’s nationalist party became one of the leaders
of the EU Parliament, winning an astounding 28 seats.

<><> Opposition conservatives prevail in Greek local election runoffs Reuters. Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’ leftist Syriza party suffered its first major defeat in years to the conservative New Democracy party in last Sunday’s European Parliament vote, prompting him to say he would call an early election. The snap election is expected to take place on July 7. On Sunday, the seats of the mayor of Athens and the district governor for the wider Athens area were the top prizes up for grabs in the runoffs of local elections. Results showed New Democracy candidates winning both seats, handing the conservatives another boost before Greeks return to vote in the expected election next month.

<><> Austrian Vice Chancellor vows to fight the Islamic “population exchange” JIHAD WATCH ^ | MAY 4, 2019 1:00 PM | CHRISTINE DOUGLASS-WILLIAMS Posted on 5/5/2019, 4:57:18 AM by robowombat——Austrian Vice Chancellor vows to fight the Islamic “population exchange” “Austrian Vice-Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache alluded to the impact of mass migration and demographic changes on the country, saying his party would fight against ‘population exchange’”.

<><>Australia Election Results: Prime Minister Scott Morrison Seizes a Stunning Win The Failing New York Times ^ | 5/18/2019 | Damien Cave Posted on 5/18/2019, 7:05:23 PM by Beave Meister SYDNEY, Australia — Scott Morrison, Australia’s conservative prime minister, scored a surprise victory in federal elections on Saturday, propelled by a populist wave — the “quiet Australians,” he termed it — resembling the force that has upended politics in the United States, Britain and beyond.

<><>Elections in India - Voters Reject Handouts! Indian News Sources ^ | 5/19/2019 | Me Posted on 5/19/2019, 9:29:06 AM by Republic_Venom If any of you are watching the end of the elections in India (https://www.republicworld.com/livetv) ......and looking at the exit polls, looks like the voters have re-elected the incumbent PM. He, like Trump, was hounded by the media and liberal elite. The surprising results from the exit polls is that the poor and destitute in India voted for him and not the parties that were offering hand-outs and uber-socialist sops. Australia rejected the liberals, now India has...so has Brazil.

<><>Boris Johnson has been elected new Conservative leader in a ballot of party members and will become the next UK prime minister.He beat Jeremy Hunt comfortably, winning 92,153 votes to his rival’s 46,656. The former London mayor takes over from Theresa May on Wednesday. Boris wasted no time-——he appointed pro-life conservative Jacob Rees-Mogg to his all-star cabinet alongside Patel, Leadsom and Raab. In victory, Johnson promised to energise the country. “We are once again going to believe in ourselves.”

<><> The governing party of Prime Minister Narendra Modi is vowing to force people to prove they are citizens to other parts of India, part of a far-reaching Hindu nationalist program fueled by Modi’s sweeping reelection victory in May and his stratospheric popularity. Members of India’s Muslim minority are growing more fearful by the day. Less than two weeks ago, Modi unilaterally wiped out the statehood of India’s only Muslim-majority state, Jammu and Kashmir, removing its special autonomy and turning it into a federal territory without any consultation with local leaders — many of whom have since been arrested.

<><> This will drive the Christian-hating Muslim hordes berserk. Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has signed a law declaring Sept. 8 of every year, the Feast of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Catholic Church, a “national special working holiday.” Assumption Day is a public holiday in countries such as Austria, Belgium, Chile, Croatia, France, parts of Germany, Guatemala, Greece, Italy, Poland, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain and Switzerland (the holiday may be regional or limited to certain groups in Switzerland).


12 posted on 08/19/2019 9:32:32 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: SJackson

And did we open the door to any German Nazis or soviet communists who wanted to come to the US to preach their propaganda?


13 posted on 08/19/2019 10:16:36 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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More yak... yak... yak... who cares what these Moonbats think of us or Israel. There’s no reason why this crap is in the “news.” Donny and Bobbi are teammates and good buddies and know what they’re doing.


14 posted on 08/19/2019 10:19:18 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: aquila48
And did we open the door to any German Nazis or soviet communists who wanted to come to the US to preach their propaganda?

We did. Operation Paperclip didn't just bring in scientists. Soviet exiles, like Alinsky, came here to foster the same revolution as they pulled off in the Soviet Union.

15 posted on 08/19/2019 10:23:32 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (WWG1WGA)
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To: Liz; All; bitt; little jeremiah; a little elbow grease; generally; TEXOKIE
yes, things are happening fast world wide.

from what you posted, it appears omar & tlaib are lucky they don't live in India??

EU (minus frau merkel) is following the lead of poland & terminating the crime, rapes, and murder that immigrated in their “population exchange”

as more and more nations are taking back control from the globalist, it continues to amaze me how many people here in the states are sitting around their TVs watching the mockingbird media parroting: “he's a raissis” “ we going into a recession” & “things would be better if trump just wouldn't tweet so much”.... and don't have any idea what is happening at home, much less around the globe.

hopefully we can get the word out to more of the joe six packs of the country before the elections.

hat tip Liz for doing your part!!

16 posted on 08/19/2019 10:38:04 AM PDT by thinden
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To: Liz; thinden

Thanks for the ping, thinden.

AWESOME compilation, Liz!


17 posted on 08/19/2019 10:57:51 AM PDT by little jeremiah (When we do not punish evildoers we are ripping the foundations of justice from future generations.)
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To: Richard Kimball

“Soviet exiles, like Alinsky, came here to foster the same revolution as they pulled off in the Soviet Union.”

Alinsky was born in Chicago.


18 posted on 08/19/2019 11:26:00 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: aquila48
“Soviet exiles, like Alinsky, came here to foster the same revolution as they pulled off in the Soviet Union.” Alinsky was born in Chicago.

Distinction without a difference.

19 posted on 08/19/2019 11:27:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

“Distinction without a difference.”

A truly moronic comment! Facts don’t matter?


20 posted on 08/19/2019 12:30:42 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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