Posted on 08/17/2019 2:36:53 PM PDT by robowombat
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities thousands have become brave and loyal soldiers of the queen: all know how to die: but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science the science against which it had vainly struggled the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
-Winston Churchill, The River War
Pashtun supremacists.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
And nuking Afgahnistan from orbit won’t change a thing either.
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Pashtun are an Indo-Iranian ethnic group, in other words, the original Aryans - the model for white racist supremacy borrowed by the Nazis.
yeah, i cannot see any good solution.
we left afghanistan, and al-qaeda germinated, grew, and has killed thousands—including those who perished in 9/11.
we stay in afghanistan without establishing a strongman, and we fight a war of attrition.
we establish a strong man, the internal politics of America and the inevitable (?) collapse of that man feeds into a future terror.
my best thought now is that the THIRD option—a strong man (like the Shah or Sadat or Mubarak) who is friendly to the West is what is needed for stability. He must be merciless to the terrorists. Yet, we also need a true Christian awakening in that part of the world.
The gospel is REALLY what changes lives. And those Muslims in Afghanistan are created in God’s image. They need His redemption of the cross of Jesus just as much as I need it!
Before we sit down with the Taliban they need to stop bombing innocent people..
Yep, that happens.
Since we both know that’s a FANTASY, a fun one but a fantasy nonetheless, what will likely happen?
I formed that opinion on 9/11 when I was giving blood in NYC.
And EVERY DAMNED day my bus detoured and gave me a view of the shards that were left.
Seems like a lifetime ago and it also seems like yesterday.
If that makes any sense.
In retrospect, maybe we should’ve convinced the USSR to stay in Trashkanistan. “Can we get you anything, comrades? A little vodka? Some fuel for your helicopters. Oh, wait. Already asked you if you wanted some vodka.”
Get rid of the entire population, nuke poppy fields and stip it of resources.
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Hold on now. The CIA needs the funds generated by those poppy fields.
Just a good pretext for Pakistan to use their nuclear weapons on the USA.
Nuke them while we are nuking the Afghan savages. They cant use them if we vaporize them first.
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I’d no more support you than I’d support ISIS. Same mega-death solution to every problem.
Same mega-death solution to every problem.
So whats your solution? Dont believe Ive ever seen you offer one.
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I personally landed over a thousand little Gideon’s Bibles in AFG
No dice
Giant mountains on all sides.
And Pakistan 180 million. And nukes. Next door
I work for afghans Know the scene.
Well, there are Pashtuns who claim they’re the lost tribe of Ephraim. But whatever they are, the Taliban faction is extremely down on Hazari, who are descended from the Monguls, and they are shockingly cruel to them.
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