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The Racist History of Red Flag Laws
American Thinker.com ^ | August 15, 2019 | Taylor Day

Posted on 08/15/2019 10:36:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

Before we get to the racism disguised by these altruistic red flag laws, let's examine why there's such a call for them in the first place.

The idea that mass shootings are based on mental health issues seems sensible, as we would like to think nobody in his right mind can commit these atrocities, but that line of thought is as wrong as those who choose to blame the gun. Psychologists understand there is a perfect storm of strain and stress that can cause anybody to go on a rampage when certain factors are culminated and met.

Academic circles know that mental health is often wrongly blamed for these tragedies, mostly by the mass media, who like to diagnose mass shooters themselves postmortem. However, statistical research shows that less than 5% of those suffering from any sort of mental illness ever become violent. Some emerging studies go on to argue that even the most severe mental illnesses like schizophrenia actually reduce the likelihood of violent behavior relative to the non-suffering population. What is even worse is that those with these serious mental illnesses are way more likely to be the victims of violence instead.

Mental health clinicians do not want the responsibility that red flag laws would place upon their professions. There is a consensus that because psychiatry is based on observation and not action, they are being set up to fail. Further experiments prove that psychiatrists are less able to predict an individual's future behavior, specifically who might become violent, than ordinary people with no mental health education or background. Since mass shootings, particularly rampage killings done by those with mental illnesses, are so rare, it's quite impossible to retrieve any pattern of data to use to predict future outcomes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; nra; pennsylvania; philadelphia; redflag; secondamendment

1 posted on 08/15/2019 10:36:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Red flag laws would seriously damage psychology as a whole. While corporations and the public in general are pushing the “talk to someone” approach of mental health up to and including free services for people who need it, the government is planning to pit a person’s mental stability against a system rigged to find anything wrong with a person to have their rights stripped from them.

While lawyers fight out these impending red flag laws in the courts, real people are going to be harmed up to and including being killed because someone was slighted by a comment taken out of context or jilted by a lover. The end result is people being forced to decide: do I see someone to talk about how sad I am or do I hold on to my right to defend myself? I suspect most will remain quiet.


2 posted on 08/15/2019 10:40:45 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: Kaslin

Speaking of “racism” and “red flag” laws...

I wonder how the law enforcement will act when calls are made about gangbangers with dreadlocks and pants down under their asses parading around weapons????


3 posted on 08/15/2019 10:42:51 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Kaslin

This new Red Flag would only Target Whites


4 posted on 08/15/2019 10:43:14 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Kaslin

Our country has turned into one Twilight Zone episode after another.


5 posted on 08/15/2019 10:48:37 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: JBW1949

i know a few police officers that show signs of mental illness...

hmmmm


6 posted on 08/15/2019 10:52:00 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: rarestia

Red flag laws won’t fix a damn thing.. Democrats will continue to allow criminals, like the one who shot 6 police officers, to run free.


7 posted on 08/15/2019 10:54:31 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: Kaslin

Red flags are for communist parades.


8 posted on 08/15/2019 11:00:25 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911/June 14, 1946)
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To: butlerweave

Plus, according to the man who explained his Red Flag Law, It will be a good Republican Red Flag Law, not a bad Democrat Red Flag Law. You should rest easier already. The sheep and the Soccer Moms and the house husband Soccer Dads are estasactic. Will it prevent a mentally ill person from attaining a firearm, no. Because there is no easily understood definition of what constitutes a mentally ill individual. or what mental illness is. Ask 10 Psychiatrists what is mental illness and you get 10 different answers. No two the same. What Red Flag Laws will do is keep firearms out of your hands. But as long as the sheep are happy and the Soccer Moms and house husband Soccer Dads are satisfied, no price is too great to pay.


9 posted on 08/15/2019 11:03:00 AM PDT by sport
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To: teeman8r
i know a few police officers that show signs of mental illness...

In our county, the Chief of one department has been fired by the mayor, and in the county seat, the city Chief of Police was put on an administrative leave from duty following an FBI raid on the police headquarters office. It kinda looks like the Dukes of Hazzard around here....

10 posted on 08/15/2019 11:42:31 AM PDT by archy (72})
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To: Kaslin

And the first time a cop takes a gun from a black....it’s off to the courts we go...discrimination etc etc etc..


11 posted on 08/15/2019 11:52:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

Not much different than Denouncing a citizen in France’s Reign of Terror, or in Fahrenheit 451.

As it used to be called...”Drop a dime on him!”


12 posted on 08/15/2019 12:34:01 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: rarestia
 
 
You're on the right track. The holy grail for Stalinists is the crushing of free speech - it causes a lot of problems for them. As far as I can tell, we are the only nation on earth that has had protections for speech. Anywhere else in the world - even in "enlightened" Europe - you could land in a prison or just vanish for publicly expressing an opinion. We even share a continent with two nations which have no institutionalized protections for speech - in Mexico people disappear, get filled with bullets or turn up dismembered and stuffed into a suitcase. In Canada a post on Facebook or Twitter can trigger a police raid. There is a lot of impatience at getting something legislated to follow suit with the rest of the planet - Google, Facebook, Twitter have been performing the task in an quasi-legal capacity but that's not good enough - there's no legal way to officially go after and sanction "offenders". There's a need to get something codified into law to bring it all together, and have teeth to it. This red flag stuff at its core is about establishing a legal standard for thoughtcrime and guns are being used as the excuse.
 
 

13 posted on 08/15/2019 12:48:19 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Kaslin
The Racist Roots of Gun Control.

SYG, Castle Doctrine and other self defense laws have roots in the push back against Jim Crow laws. Yet today's “black leaders” line up to help the Progressives destroy all of the progress made to secure black families.

The Castle Doctrine & Stand Your Ground – The Trial of Dr. Ossian Sweet TheConservativeTreeHouse

No Guns for Negroes Part One (video 10:00)

No Guns for Negroes Part Two (video 9:45)

Equal Gun Rights (video 0:52)

The Never Again Campaign (video 0:30)

The NRA Was Created To Protect Freed Slaves From The KKK & The Democratic Party, and Everyone Else From a Tyrannical Government LiveLeaks video 3:08

14 posted on 08/15/2019 1:44:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Kaslin

Gee, the gun grabbers are a bunch of racists. Why am I not surprised? Virtually all leftists, especially the fascist-communist wing, are extremely, virulently racist.

That’s why the El Paso killer’s manifesto sounds so “progressive.” Remember, they idolize the racist Klan supporter Woodrow Wilson.


15 posted on 08/15/2019 1:52:47 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: butlerweave

White Republicans and White Veterans!


16 posted on 08/15/2019 4:24:04 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Kaslin

A common thread running through most of these mass shootings in recent years, in addition to the use of psychotropic drugs by the perps, is that they have juvenile police records.

As it now stands, a person with a sealed juvenile police record can pass the BI test for a weapon purchase.

That is how some of these mass murderers have been able to “legally” acquire a weapon.

If a person trying to buy a weapon has a juvenile record, it should be unsealed and a decision made at that point re: a weapon purchase.

The likelihood that a bad kid will be a bad adult is strong!


17 posted on 08/15/2019 4:30:30 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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