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Civil war is preferable to a Democratic president
wnd.com ^ | 8/14/2019 | eric rush

Posted on 08/15/2019 8:49:56 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

There has never been widespread civil conflict while the poorest people were the most likely to be obese and are so well entertained. Generally they are also unused to hard physical labor outdoors in all weather. These are all new conditions for humanity. I guess the counter argument is that there could be a first time for everything.

Also, I think there is a huge group of people who just don’t care, at least enough to vote about it. Voting is a pretty low bar, it doesn’t take that much effort. I think the people who care about culture and politics from both the left and right vastly overestimate the number of people who also care as much as they do, at least enough to try voting. If there is a 15-20% bump in eligible voter turnout in 2020 then that will be a big warning sign to me. That would only take turnout up to 75-80% or so.

Freegards


61 posted on 08/15/2019 10:16:09 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Salvey

‘epstiened’?


62 posted on 08/15/2019 10:23:36 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: thoughtomator

’ There is no way that the American people will vote to defeat President Trump.’ Could he be defeated despite the votes? We should all understand ‘they’ know no bounds when it comes to their depravity.


63 posted on 08/15/2019 10:25:18 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

Agreed. They don’t even plan to commit voter fraud this time.

They intend to simply declare the Democrat the winner at 9PM on election night and put the “revolution” ball in our court.

The votes? Oh. They don’t have to show you those.


64 posted on 08/15/2019 10:31:37 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: hawkaw

I don’t think his style has anything to do with it. In 2016 the dems got caught sleeping thinking Hillary would coast into Office.
This time they are enraged, all that will change is an all out wave of corruption. They have easily poured another 2 million illegals in since 2016, and don’t kid yourself, they distributed them all over the nation for a reason, they will have them voting. Also, there were probably a few democrats who didnt bother to vote for all kids of reasons because they thought Hillary was a lead pipe cinch to win. They were planning their parties.

There will not be a single democrat who stays home. That combined with the accelerating facebook, google and twitter censorship or the slightest conservative voice will make this a tough fight.

In a true election we would win easily. But we are facing full on corruption. This is less of an election than it is a form of warfare.


65 posted on 08/15/2019 10:32:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: GOPJ

“They” is 10-15% of the population tops. Not enough to claim anything except the handful of cities where they dominate. We can turn those cities into smouldering ruins in days, simply by cutting off the roads and watching the residents devour each other over dwindling supplies... at which point these white lefties will find out that the black folks on their plantations have no compunctions about owning guns and are far more skilled and experienced at dealing with savage environments.


66 posted on 08/15/2019 10:35:38 AM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: JimRed

“Cut off the head and the snake will die. “

Nope, that’s the silly COIN strategy our military tries again and again and fails at. How many times have we killed the big kahunas of ISIS or Al Qeida?

You have to kill the idea. Otherwise you are playing the hydra game.


67 posted on 08/15/2019 10:37:44 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Quickgun

It would be a mix of the Spanish civil war, the balkans and the Troubles with outsider intervention of course.


68 posted on 08/15/2019 10:39:04 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: laplata

And I am wondering how that can be done successfully? We are surrounded. There is no enclave of safety where we can produce what we need and set up our own economy and society.

Once a week I leave the relative peace and safety of the farm for church and to visit the nursing home then, sometimes, I adventure to Waddlemart. The majority of what I see are unkept degrees of people and disfunction. We are surrounded by drug and drink culture. Little children are born into it and don’t stand a chance of getting away from it. Working and welfare people and only a few of what I see as church going normal families. Very few.

Medical marijuana is the newest scam to hit the legalized drug trade. This allegedly conservative state voted in a significant majority to legalize medical marijuana and will move on to general legalization as soon as they can. We have a lot of people who like to exhibit “Don’t tread on me.” flags and stickers and all other manner of authority defiant icons believing somehow they are demonstrating their right to freedom when in actuality all they really want is anarchy or freedom without responsibility or respect for others.

There are six dispensaries in this little town alone and at least 10 or more in a county of 40,000. An annual $125 visit to the local quack will get you a ticket to all the legal pot you can buy. One of these quacks has set up office for this reason only in a little hole behind a storage facility next to the vapor store. It is the same game that brought us opioids. We have more “pain clinic” docs in this county than legitimate family care docs. More than ever I don’t feel safe on the roads. The adjacent state is now getting their own dispensaries and it is the lead story in the news every night now for weeks. People and the news casters are excited to see it come to a town nearby. Excited to have a population of legal stoners? Oh boy. Are there really thousands of people in so much pain that this is necessary? I sincerely doubt it.

An ER doc I know worked in the small city ER nearby. He quit. Could not take the daily drama of human debris that flowed in the door. He called me one day to tell me about a normal nice family with a child who was injured on a trampoline. It was a rare uplifting encounter for him. Most of the time it was drugs, drunks, knives, guns, fights, wailing children and inept ignorant parents screaming at everyone in earshot with an unending stream of illegals using the ER for all they could get. Pure bedlam.

I am watching a periodic drama play outside my front gate on the highway today. Boy and girl stopped apparently with car trouble and began a fight on the roadside. Mostly she attacking he who at one point fled toward my open gate whereupon I waved him back. No, I didn’t sign on for them and their problems. Around here with the drug and drink culture you let the county sheriff handle these things.

A good young man that works for us from time-to-time said he and his wife would have only one child because they could not accept responsibility for having another child to face the coming world. I told him it broke my heart to hear him say such things but that I could not attempt to dissuade him otherwise in good conscience. There have always been troubles but they were against despots who could be defeated by a majority of good men. We don’t face despots but a decayed society instead.

I keep wishing I was wrong and that there are more normal nice, sober, decent, hard working people around than not. I keep hoping that the spectacle of human debris that I don’t believe are anywhere near on my side is sensationalized. This is the rural Southwest. I can only imagine the cities are even worse. At least there are fewer people here.

Complaining and warning and worry do no good. I don’t know what we can do to escape what appears to be our inevitable collapse. I only say appears because I don’t want to give in, give up or for my fears to become true. Where do we go? What do we do? I don’t know. A friend claims our salvation is states rights. I doubt that. The people in the states are what make things as they are and no state is so conservative as to be a safe haven island in the coming storm. The dimocrats will win an election soon and they will take over and they will be worse than we have ever seen and they will be vengeful and the right we elect will not stop them just like they have not in more than 50 years. They don’t work for us. Follow the money.


69 posted on 08/15/2019 10:50:24 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: DesertRhino

You are correct. Ideologies are what make movements and not the leaders who are organizers and planters of seeds.

We have a new ideology in this country and it is inculcated in the young generations who are scared to death of global warming and actually believe in white privilege and racism and even, apparently, at their own expense. How can this possibly be? How can a system be so ingrained as to make people willingly give up their comforts and freedom?


70 posted on 08/15/2019 10:56:46 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: hanamizu

The Royalists were very stylish. Love the plumed hats and lace collars. Too bad they went out of style.


71 posted on 08/15/2019 11:05:22 AM PDT by RitchieAprile (available monkeys looking for the change..)
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To: DesertRhino

“Christianity, US Government enforced atheism, Neo-pagan satanic witchcraft crystals and folk religion, Islam, and then those beloved Mormon areas.
Lots of different languages, English, ebonics of Baltimore and other black cities, and huge swaths of Spanish speaking areas in Florida, California etc.”


Not nearly the same thing. Roman Catholics, Orthodox, and Islam spent centuries fighting each other. Not fight as in arguing, but massive bloody wars that are still remembered and resented to this day. Mountain Meadows is nothing in comparison.

While Spanish has been established in parts of NM for centuries, in most of the US it is a fairly recent arrival. Black English has been around for a long time, but I don’t think blacks have the numbers to provide for the CWII that people are talking about.

There does seem to be a very major disconnect between the left and the right in this country and the divide seems to be growing. I saw a map of NYC yesterday where there were neighborhoods that voted 80% for HRC and close by neighborhoods that went for PDJT. That might get ugly.


72 posted on 08/15/2019 11:17:05 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Little Ray

Reread your tagline.


73 posted on 08/15/2019 11:31:54 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: rktman

It wouldn’t be a civil war, it would be a revolution.


74 posted on 08/15/2019 11:37:41 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“The Communists have territory States of California, New York Oregon, Washington, Mass. Moving on Texas with armies of illegals and advanced agents in Texas.”

I know what you’re saying, but of course it’s really the federal government that runs everything and they are primarily controlled by the left/deep state that controls the doj, police state agencies and the bureaucracies.

The communist states that you listed won’t likely break away or secede because they are in line with the federal government ideologically for the most part.

As I said before, we won’t have a real civil war until someone occupies and holds territory and resources out of the control of the federal government.


75 posted on 08/15/2019 11:39:08 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: Openurmind

And probably not civil either.


76 posted on 08/15/2019 11:42:08 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

Nope...


77 posted on 08/15/2019 11:47:47 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: rktman

I’m sure it’s been mentioned but people who unwilling to give up cable TV are not going to secede.


78 posted on 08/15/2019 11:48:43 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer
Cable wut? 🔪✂
79 posted on 08/15/2019 11:53:03 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Meatspace

Same was said by liberals about Hitlery in 2016.


80 posted on 08/15/2019 11:56:20 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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