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‘Keep the Hasidic Out’: A Small-Town Housing Showdown
The New York Times ^ | 14 Aug 2019 | Sharon Otterman

Posted on 08/14/2019 6:02:03 AM PDT by Theoria

Developers say local leaders in the Hudson Valley are blocking a housing project in order to keep out Hasidic Jews.

In a peaceful corner of the Hudson Valley, a broad expanse of land sits at the ready for hundreds of homes ranging between 2,500 and 3,400 square feet, with views of the surrounding hills. There will be a recreation center and tennis courts, and nearly half of the development’s 117 acres will be kept as open space.

But if it were up to town officials, the houses would never be built. They openly fret about the size and density of the 431-unit development, the Greens at Chester, and even confess wariness about the likely intended home buyers: Hasidic Jews.

“There’s nobody on the board, there’s nobody that works in the town, there’s nobody that wants this development to go through,” Alexander Jamieson, the former town supervisor of Chester, said at a public meeting in May 2018. “There’s nobody.”

Town officials have repeatedly placed obstacles in the developers’ path since they bought the land in 2017: restrictions on the size of the houses they can build, delays on issuing building permits and a request to relocate the main road by 10 feet.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: chester; hasidic; hasidicjews; housing; hudsonvalley; jews; newyork
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1 posted on 08/14/2019 6:02:04 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

This is happening with the development my inlaws live in. The Hasidim are trying to buy the golf course to put up housing. No one is very happy about it. My left wing Jewish mother in law calls them cockroaches and after I remind her about tolerance, she shuts up and blames Trump for something.


2 posted on 08/14/2019 6:05:04 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is President and CEO of America, Inc.)
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To: Theoria

Diversity?


3 posted on 08/14/2019 6:05:24 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: EQAndyBuzz

This story stinks, their real job is to get people to believe lies, NYTIMES hates Jews.


4 posted on 08/14/2019 6:06:37 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Crazy. Trump is the default gremlin of the world for some.


5 posted on 08/14/2019 6:08:34 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

Democraps hate jews, yet, jews for overwhelmingly for democraps.


6 posted on 08/14/2019 6:09:11 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: Theoria

At the risk of sounding naive, why would anyone not want a community of these people?


7 posted on 08/14/2019 6:09:55 AM PDT by JudyinCanada (Aim low, avoid disappointment.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I saw in the wsj a few days ago in SC and other places where developments are now building or want to build homes on courses due to less people playing and such. Real dilemma out there for some.
8 posted on 08/14/2019 6:12:13 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

If the expected buyers were blacks, and the locals wanted to keep them out, there would be a (justified) uproar.


9 posted on 08/14/2019 6:14:03 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: JudyinCanada
At the risk of sounding naive, why would anyone not want a community of these people?

A large percentage of Hasidim are on public assistance. The town probably prefers people who will contribute more to the tax base.

10 posted on 08/14/2019 6:17:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: JudyinCanada
For some its a concern that the area would end up like Kiryas Joel.

'KIRYAS JOEL -- This village has always had the distinction of being a cultural and religious enclave, but now it can add another: Kiryas Joel is the poorest place in the country. According to the latest round of U.S. Census figures, released late last year, the village has the highest poverty rate in the nation, and the largest percentage of residents who receive food stamps. Only one other place in the 50 states has a lower median income.'

'More than two-thirds of Kiryas Joel residents live below the federal poverty line and more than 40 percent receive food stamps, according to the American Community Survey, a U.S. Census Bureau study of every place in the country with 20,000 residents or more.'

11 posted on 08/14/2019 6:18:32 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

They don’t like infidels and have peculiar religious practices. But they are not muzzies so it’s ok to discriminate against them, in the minds of many.


12 posted on 08/14/2019 6:19:48 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks for this information. I had no idea. I always thought that Jewish people were hard working and successful - this surprises me. Why are the Hasidim like this?


13 posted on 08/14/2019 6:21:02 AM PDT by JudyinCanada (Aim low, avoid disappointment.)
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To: JudyinCanada

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-haredi-poverty-the-same-threat-in-both-new-york-and-israel-1.6724049


14 posted on 08/14/2019 6:21:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: JudyinCanada
Please take a tour of Kiryas Joel and Monsey (NY) and Lakewood (NJ) ... and then get back to us with your observations.

You'll never ask that question again.

15 posted on 08/14/2019 6:21:17 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: JudyinCanada

I’ve recently heard 2nd hand stories about southern New Jersey and how the Hasidic communities have ‘run down’ some neighborhoods. I was surprised as you are.
This from foxnews:
“Critics of the Hasidic groups say development in many towns has followed a familiar pattern: The group moves into a community, then begins to overwhelm local government and social services with explosive population growth. That’s accompanied by rapid construction of low-cost, densely packed housing units — typically townhouses — though even these, eventually, can’t contain the growth. Hasidic leaders or developers with ties to them then buy up nearby homes, gain control of the local school board, ultimately gut public school budgets and divert funds to private Jewish schools.

There have been echoes of this pattern in places including Bloomingburg, a once-rural upstate New York town, and Toms River, N.J., to name but a few examples.

All this, while Hasidic households with very modest incomes collect millions in federal benefits, often because of large family sizes.

“They know how to game the system,” said Samuel C. Heilman, a sociology professor at Queens College of the City University of New York. “They know the ins and outs, or they get professionals and find out how to apply for things like Section 8” housing subsidies. “Their leadership is intertwined with the political system in order to get favorable entry.” “ https://www.foxnews.com/us/insular-hasidic-jews-struggle-to-preserve-customs-as-legal-and-social-pressures-build


16 posted on 08/14/2019 6:22:31 AM PDT by wattsgnu
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To: JudyinCanada
Thanks for this information. I had no idea. I always thought that Jewish people were hard working and successful - this surprises me. Why are the Hasidim like this?

Ultra-orthodox culture values Torah study as the highest good that a man can be engaged in.

In the past, before modern welfare programs, they also had to earn a living.

17 posted on 08/14/2019 6:24:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: JudyinCanada

In many of the enclaves where these Hasidim live in the U.S., the prevailing culture is remarkably similar to what you see with radical Muslims in Great Britain. They have large families and spend their entire lives on public assistance, and an overwhelming number of the men are “biblical scholars” instead of being gainfully employed.


18 posted on 08/14/2019 6:26:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: JudyinCanada

“why would anyone not want a community of these people?”

Because they are Un-American separatists. They wish to live under their separatist, strict religious codes, while simultaneously milking the welfare system, AND block voting to push aside all others.

Have state funds pay for everything, while avoiding their own property taxes through religious exemptions.

Google “Kiryas Joel”. Read the sign. Seems innocent enough, but its’ actually a warning to outsiders.

Note the town of New Square in NY. Highest per-capita poverty in the state. Why? Dads don’t work regular jobs because they are “Students” at Yeshiva. Lots of side Cash flows through these places. (The Velocity of Money takes on new meanings in insular communities.) They have large families due to religious obligations. Dad has to perform his duty whenever Mom asks.

This is what’s coming to YOUR community soon.

The Mooselimbs are doing it in Dearbornistan.


19 posted on 08/14/2019 6:27:01 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Everything
that you do
Will come back to you.


20 posted on 08/14/2019 6:28:48 AM PDT by babble-on ("moderation is best in all things" - Hesiod)
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