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China won't let U.S. Navy ship dock in Hong Kong amid trade tensions
Reuters via NBC News ^
| 08/13/2019
Posted on 08/13/2019 12:35:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: 4yearlurker
True - but wasn’t it a pretty bad ‘turn over’ deal?
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:32:42 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(While the Medical Examiner was on lunch break, Epstein cremated himself. Freeper reddawg)
To: GOPJ
China gave Hong Kong some autonomy at first, but told them it was temporary. And it was.
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:33:52 PM PDT
by
sparklite2
(Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
To: SeekAndFind
That took some balls to ask for a port visit for an Amphib full of Marines in the middle of this. Sheer panic on the Chinese side thinking that we might intervene because that is what they would do. Even having a group afloat in the neighborhood will make them look over their shoulder. I like it.
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:35:29 PM PDT
by
ClayinVA
("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
To: SeekAndFind
I hope those stupid British are happy that they gave away Hong Kong to Chicom scum.
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:36:49 PM PDT
by
shanover
(...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
To: shanover
“On June 9, 1898, the British under Queen Victoria brokered a 99-year lease agreement for the use of Hong Kong after China lost a series of wars fought over the British trade in tea and opium.”
It’s more like Britain took away Hong Kong for a century than that the UK ‘gave away Hong Kong to Chicom scum.’
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:41:57 PM PDT
by
sparklite2
(Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
To: GOPJ
In 1947, but in 1997 modified...worked out a 50 year one nation (China) - Two system of govt (one free- other tyranny - China - for 50 years til 2047). Looks like that contract maybe ending early!
It’s going to be a blood bath...
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:42:38 PM PDT
by
ldish
(Have had enough...you??????)
To: ldish
suppose I am wrong on original date
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:43:27 PM PDT
by
ldish
(Have had enough...you??????)
To: SeekAndFind
I would then just go to Singapore. Most likly a shore leave situation.
To: SeekAndFind
According to Wiki, there were 60,000 American citizens living in Hong Kong as of 2009. That's more than British expats. Also, 1,100 American companies employ 10% of the Hong Kong workforce.
Seems to me we have some obligation to use leverage here to protect these people, short of war. I trust that Trump understands all of this.
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:56:20 PM PDT
by
Al B.
("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." -- Ronald Reagan)
To: sparklite2
Hong Kong doesn’t have a chance do they? Are residents allowed to leave?
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:57:29 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(While the Medical Examiner was on lunch break, Epstein cremated himself. Freeper reddawg)
To: Al B.
we have no obligation to protect chinese citizens,. Let their companies worry about that.
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:57:59 PM PDT
by
morphing libertarian
( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
To: wildcard_redneck
Then if the ChiComs attack Hong Kong the removal of the basis will be a tit-for-tat response and will be much easier to defend politicallyIf the US government arrests Brennan, Clapper, Jarrett, Lynch, and Holder, would China bombing a US island possession be a "tit-for-tat response"?
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posted on
08/13/2019 1:58:51 PM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
To: morphing libertarian
Wasn’t very clear. I do agree we have no obligation to Chinese citizens. The thousands of Americans living there are another story.
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posted on
08/13/2019 2:02:10 PM PDT
by
Al B.
("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." -- Ronald Reagan)
To: Al B.
many of us here forget that Honk Kong IS in China.
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posted on
08/13/2019 2:03:29 PM PDT
by
morphing libertarian
( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
To: GOPJ
Hong Kong doesnt have a chance do they? I'd say they don't have a choice.
Are residents allowed to leave?
Yes. About twenty-five thousand a year leave, but it's likely to be higher now.
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posted on
08/13/2019 2:12:33 PM PDT
by
sparklite2
(Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
To: ifinnegan
No. The Brits had a 99 Yr lease on HK that expired.
To: SeekAndFind
And, no one was more surprised when the Brits lived up to the terms than the Red Chinese...
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posted on
08/13/2019 2:15:14 PM PDT
by
Eric in the Ozarks
(Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
To: John S Mosby
The forces that were seen moving into nearby Shenzhen were PAP - Peoples Armed Police. The PLA is quiet at the moment. PAP forces will go in first.
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posted on
08/13/2019 2:25:58 PM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
To: DownInFlames
“No. The Brits had a 99 Yr lease on HK that expired.”
No.
Hong Kong and Kowloon were ceded forever in early 1800’s.
The 99 year lease was for New Territories, made in 1898.
It was a lease from an extinct imperial dynasty.
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posted on
08/13/2019 2:26:08 PM PDT
by
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
To: SeekAndFind
Best thing the U.S. can do is have massive surveillance coverage via drones, planes and satellites of HK over the next 72 hours.
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