Posted on 08/12/2019 7:11:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Pretty sure you got that wrong. Socialism allows for private production/ownership, but distributes the benefits of that free enterprise to others who don't produce. Communism is what you're thinking of, where the state owns all production and distributes the benefits to all.
Either way, they both are usually totalitarian top-down government run. Even though China cheats in trade and steals, I had big hopes for the Chinese people once HK reverted back to China, along with international investments. Obviously, they are regressing to their old ways.
Absolutely correct. From the moment the British gave it up, HK’s entire future was up to the ChiComs.
They can crush HK anytime they feel like it, like you or I deciding on what to wear today.
Looks like today it is a brutal a red shirt and tyrannical purple pants.
Wait a minute:
The Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics.
They called themselves socialists from the very beginning.
The British “gave it up”, like a tenant “gives up” an apartment when their lease runs out.
Technically, perhaps. We have a permanent base in Cuba, Guantanamo Bay Naval Station, and pay the Cuban government an annual lease. Since the Cuban revolution, the Castro government has not accepted the payments although the US still makes them. They say we are occupying it illegally. Is it legal or not?
Occupancy has its own legality, if you have the muscle ot keep it.
Thanks for posting this reality!
RE: The good citizens of Hong Kong can use their 1st and 2nd amendment rights.
There ain’t no such animal in HK.
That animal only exists in the USA and it is slowly being hunted won into extinction.
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Taking donations from this man and those like him, Marxist millionaires and billionaires foreign and domestic to gain election in this Republic is treachery against your children, family, friends, and country and those are crimes both morally and legally.
This is bigger than one man.
I fear this is the start of a bloodbath—a million bodies and what will the USA do? ZIP China must change. Mao did such things behind the bamboo curtain. This time all the world will watch the slaughter. Anyone in Hong Kong needs to get out before the shooting starts.
China is not going to retreat. It is only possible for it to go forward. Any retreat is tantamount to defeat which it will not countenance. The people of Hong Kong will pay a terrible price for the fall of the PRC, but fall it will. There is no other outcome to the Trump doctrine.
This time as you noted, any mass slaughter will be seen worldwide.
Hungary 1956?
According to a realtor, who handles a lot of foreign buyers, many Hong Kong buyers started buying a couple of years ago.
Most of them have been senior citizens, and they knew what could happen when the current ChiComs leaders took over.
I’m sure glad my tenants don’t feel that way.
Exactly right...
But it was clearly stipulated, that the lease terminated in 1997, the Chinese had no obligation to renew it.
If we would just open one way trade where they get rich the peasants will move to middle class and SOONER or LATER democracy HAS TO happen.
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That’s the Bush League Republican policy.
This is probably the best that can be expected. If there is widespread violence and killings, businesses may think twice about staying in HK. If that happens, you wonder long it will take for their economy to recover - years? Decades?
Dude, Chill!
It’s not about tenants and landlords, but nations.
How do you think the Brits got HK in the first place, a renter’s agreement?
No, they launched the Opium Wars, killed thousands of Chinese and took it, and then forced China to cede it to them.
I’m not trying to make ANY morale equivalent to anything personal.
Now, PERSONALLY, I think it is a shame that whatever personal freedoms the HK’s have inherited by a classically liberal Britain will be subjugated by Red Chinese strong man tyranny, but that’s just the conservative in me.
I believed it once. Until it never worked.
I also believe Iraq would Really be secular and everyone would be eating mcdonalds and wearing blue jeans by 2005.
I was quite naive even in my early 30s.
At 51, I am quite jaded and anything the fed gov does that it says is to help me is suspect
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