Posted on 07/31/2019 7:43:15 PM PDT by xxqqzz
SEATTLE — In the days after the first crash of Boeing’s 737 Max, engineers at the Federal Aviation Administration came to a troubling realization: They didn’t fully understand the automated system that helped send the plane into a nose-dive, killing everyone on board.
Engineers at the agency scoured their files for information about the system designed to help avoid stalls. They didn’t find much. Regulators had never independently assessed the risks of the dangerous software known as MCAS when they approved the plane in 2017.
More than a dozen current and former employees at the F.A.A. and Boeing who spoke with The New York Times described a broken regulatory process that effectively neutered the oversight authority of the agency.
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FADEC IS A BIGGER KILLER THAN MCAS.
Remember that Airbus ‘demo’ flight at an airshow - the one where the aircraft NEVER pulled up and plowed into the trees?
OH yeah ... man/mankind is fallible.
NYT: “Trump’s Fault!”
Money needs to come out of politics along with rotating door. We all know and recognize the corruption and ramifications. Boeing CEO should be fired if BOD did their job. Bucks always starts and stops at top. Thankfully US finally pulled the Maxxes ability to fly until resolution of investigation. Regulators to cozy.
And the outsourcing of jobs including engineer positions to save money. Boeing wanted to pay people as little as $9 an hour.
And lots of greed and impatience. A whole brand new plane was in the works but they wanted to catch up with Airbus sales faster. So they ‘maximized’ the existing 737 into a monster.
The root of a problem is not failure of regulators. The root if the problem goes back to the designers and users.
Same thing caused the banking crisis of 2007-2010. The Bush appointed head of the FDIC said that he was going to get the regulators off the backs of the community bankers. Of course, by the time it all sorted out, some of the failures were a good bit bigger than community banks.
Banking crisis or real estate crisis? Banks were pushed to give loans to people who couldn’t afford houses, taking on incredible debt in the process. Yes, we need regulation, but we don’t need politics intruding into sound financial practices.
Re: the dangerous software known as MCAS
After two years of service, it was so dangerous there were zero crashes and zero reported close calls in Europe, in North America, and in the wealthy Asian countries.
You can bury your head in the sand all you want. Those who look at the facts can easily see that the way that MCAS was designed is so bad that it wouldn’t be fit for a toy. Not just one serious design problem, but many. It was criminally negligent.
It is the fault of the regulator — for making it too expensive for airlines and manufacturers to introduce new models. The Airlines did not want to retrain all their pilots, so they would not accept a new model that the regulators would have required training for. So Boeing had to sneak the new systems in as minimal and not needing training according to the regulators.
The fault is over regulation. Surprise.
Re: You can bury your head in the sand all you want.
Actually, I read every article on this subject.
For some reason, you, and the MSM, have never attempted to answer my very inconvenient observation.
Trump was inaugurated at the end of January 2017.
The certify FAA failure was OBAMA'S and we need to make that clear anywhere this story comes up!
“The root of a problem is not failure of regulators. The root if the problem goes back to the designers and users.”
When you have managers who want the big pay, and engineers who want to keep feeding their families, people will take shortcuts - that is HUMAN NATURE, and it’s not going to change - no matter how many Libertarian lectures we attend. In most businesses that non-regulation loop would work - things break, you get crappy Amazon reviews, and pay a price - and then maybe respond with a better product.
When it comes to planes falling out of the sky, the tolerance for ‘Libertarian Principles’ is very limited. Like it or not, the government WILL step in. The only question is just how far does it go...and will it turn flying back into something that only the upper classes can afford. Regulators, if they’re responding to things they should have been regulating in the first place, then tend to overreact, and we all pay a price for that...if they had done their job, then the risk of over-regulating would be much lower.
And so now we pay the price.
The real problem was companies who didn’t adequately train their pilots.
I read this, and think “Gee, where would we be if the NYT exercised its ‘considerable’ investigative powers to look into the crooked sons of b*****s in office who are destroying our freedom and driving us into bankruptcy instead of their pet issues like “corporate greed” and “global warming”?”
Root cause analysis always coughs when you get to the politicians or political process. Answer to “why” then becomes so and so would not benefit. End of analysis.
The real problem was companies who didn’t adequately train their pilots.
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No, it’s not. The root problem is a poorly designed system. Could training have mitigated the problem? Possibly but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a poor design if a failure point can cause an otherwise airworthy airplane to attempt to fly itself into the ground. You can train all you want but you have to design airliners so that an average pilot having a bad day can still fly it. You don’t always get Chuck Yeager at his best and an airplane that’s difficult to control when a minor sensor fails needs to be grounded and corrected. You can tsk-tsk all you want that the pilots should have been trained better but that doesn’t mean a whole lot when it’s your family that’s dead.
After the second crash they reiterated there was no problem and told people to read the instruction manual.
They never adequately explained to pilots how they reconfigured their safety system and they never required anyone to be retrained.
It was weeks after the second crash they admitted they were at fault.
How the heck do you alter a safety system and NOT REQUIRE RETRAINING?
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