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Dad charged in death of twin babies he left in hot car
NY Post ^ | July 27, 2019 | Kenneth Garger

Posted on 07/27/2019 12:03:00 AM PDT by aquila48

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To: dp0622
I’m not a parent.

This is obvious.

41 posted on 07/27/2019 5:14:01 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: livius
Indeed. So sad.
42 posted on 07/27/2019 5:14:34 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: BunnySlippers
it seems, though, that some of these are not accidents ...

The overwhelming majority of these are accidents. Criminal negligence, to be sure, but not premeditated acts of murder. Babies sleeping quietly in rear-facing car seats, tired parents, --both of whom work, changes to routine, all contribute.

43 posted on 07/27/2019 5:16:28 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

I can tell from your answer that people who dont procreate have failed.

But if insulting or trying to humiliate gives you a hard on, I am happy I made your day :)


44 posted on 07/27/2019 5:17:48 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: 21twelve
Yes, sleep deprivation is the worst. We had three kids that were only 13 months apart.
45 posted on 07/27/2019 5:18:04 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: dp0622

There was a father in, I think Florida just several years ago who “forgot”
his little guy in the car while he went to work.same scenario as this. The investigation revealed he had been searching the internet on what happens when a kid is left in a car, among other things. He was convicted of first degree murder.


46 posted on 07/27/2019 5:22:19 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: dp0622

Exactly! Not buying his story.


47 posted on 07/27/2019 5:22:34 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: cuban leaf

“The rush to judgement here is shocking. This is why I don’t think women should be judges.”

Agree too. Maybe he was stoned, but the article doesn’t say that and it doesn’t add up with him going to that type of job...I certainly wouldn’t conclude that. As to thinking about them during the day - earlier this week I was wondering if I had left an air conditioner at my house running, and I convinced myself that I had not, sure enough it was running, and cost me a few bucks in power. Sure, not a kid or two, but minds can play tricks on people. Did he think about his kids that day - sure, did he think about whether they dropped off - probably, did his mind tell him they were dropped off - probably. Except that was the day BEFORE...that’s how these things can play tricks on people.

Anyway, just a sad story to me, but if there are other factors (like drugs) involved, then YEP, throw the book at him.


48 posted on 07/27/2019 5:24:21 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: cuban leaf

I’ll add one more factor, that someone else mentioned too. If he was on his cell phone for more than a minute or two or texting, maybe not burn him at the stake, but, yes, he deserves some serious time. People need to stop doing that crap when they’re driving.


49 posted on 07/27/2019 5:30:07 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: FES0844

“Yeah, and during that 8 hours the wife never checked with him about the babies..?“

Some days, but rarely, I forget about my kids for eight hours. It amazes me.

They’re very busy. In college.

When they were babies I never left their side.

This mother’s behavior I question. She goes to lunch without calling the day care? Hmm

But being away from a baby for eight to ten hours a day is sick. I do not care that everyone does it. It is not ok.


50 posted on 07/27/2019 5:33:28 AM PDT by stanne
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To: dp0622

“I’m not a parent. Wouldn’t mom ask dad “did the kids get there safely” “

That would depend on a lot of factors, starting with whether the mom is even in the picture - could be a single dad. Even if mom is in the picture, she may well be working a job where cutting loose isn’t easy, and if he’s never had an issue dropping off the kids before, it’s not hard to see her not worrying about the kids that day.

It’s hard for people to put this stuff into perspective, but we don’t read stories about the other 4,999,999 kids who are safely dropped off at day care every day. With sample sizes so big, it’s very likely that the factors will line up against someone, like this guy, once in a while (and no, I’m saying he shouldn’t be punished, since I don’t know enough to make that call).


51 posted on 07/27/2019 5:39:13 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: stanne

“But being away from a baby for eight to ten hours a day is sick. I do not care that everyone does it. It is not ok.”

I can agree with that one! And I like it when you go after the herd mentality - if the Jones’ are dumping off their kids everyday, why can’t I do the same and get out of this house and work!


52 posted on 07/27/2019 5:42:30 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

Yep. With the facts we currently have at hand, that’s really all we can say. Maybe it’s just a male thing, but I have plenty of examples of things that have completely slipped my mind, yet we’re extremely important. I can actually see this happening, even with me. It’s not a hundred percent likely, but it’s not 0% likely either. And when you have 330 million people in a country, one or two are going to do this even when they don’t want to.


53 posted on 07/27/2019 5:43:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: abigkahuna

“How does one keep on living knowing that due to one’s own stupid actions, the lives of their newborn children are no more.”

If it was truly an accident, you don’t.

You do the only honorable thing.


54 posted on 07/27/2019 5:46:14 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: aquila48

Where’s mom? Or is this a homosexual dad?


55 posted on 07/27/2019 5:50:17 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: cuban leaf

Yea, it’s funny - we beat up the left because they get so emotional after large shootings and want to discard the Second Amendment...but what are people doing here, with barely any facts and given just how many kids are dropped off every day?

Most likely, from the little bit we do know, this was a horrible mistake on his part. But what of the cases where a mom kills her kids and blames it post-partum depression (real or otherwise)? At least when a big case came around where I worked, there were some women who ‘related’ to her. Those deaths were NOT a mistake, they were murder.


56 posted on 07/27/2019 5:57:09 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: dp0622

Questions: With the kids strapped into their seats wasn’t he supposed to take them to day care? Or was he going to take them into work? Would not the day care call if he didn’t show up? Finally, with the windows closed for eight hours wouldn’t there be a very strong odor when he got into the car at work?

Not buying his story.


57 posted on 07/27/2019 5:59:32 AM PDT by Colo9250
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To: BobL

Mother is not off the hook in this case


58 posted on 07/27/2019 6:07:30 AM PDT by stanne
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To: livius
He only realized he left his kids behind once he drove off after work

He didn't see them when he walked up to the car, unlocked it, got in, started the engine, looked behind him as he pulled out of the parking space but only when he got out to the street?

If it were a change in the routine, one would have thought his wife would have called to make sure he dropped them off at daycare and they were fine. What kind of parents are they that they don't at least think about their kids once or twice during the day? That thought should have been a realization he'd left them in the car.

59 posted on 07/27/2019 6:19:15 AM PDT by bgill
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To: dp0622

What was he doing taking his twins to work for? He’s a social worker. Something is not right by his story.


60 posted on 07/27/2019 6:30:04 AM PDT by ivory49
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