Posted on 07/25/2019 12:48:13 PM PDT by csvset
VIRGINIA BEACH
A bystander at a 7-Eleven on South Newtown Road early this morning shot two men robbing the convenience store, police said.
One of them is dead and the other was seriously injured. Both were wearing masks and carrying guns.
Another man police believe was involved was located a short distance from the store and has been taken into custody.
Police have not said whether they plan to charge the bystander. They said his gun was legal.
It happened just after 2 a.m. at the store located at 130 S. Newtown Road. Police believe the trio had robbed another 7-Eleven on Pacific Avenue around 12:30 a.m., taking cigarettes and smoking devices. Police believe they are responsible for other robberies as well, but didn't give details on those.
Before officers got to the scene on Newtown Road, a man who had been inside the store shot the suspects, police said.
Barrie Engel said she saw it happen.
Engel, who owns Coastal Cafe just a few minutes down the street, was giving a friend a ride home when he asked to stop for a Big Gulp. She requested nachos from her friend and they were about to pay at the register when the two men burst in, she said.
"I was standing right next to him at the counter when two gentlemen — armed, masked, robbers — came in the store with their guns up and told us to stay where we were, nobody move," she said.
"I did exactly that, I pretty much froze and looked at my friend and he looked at me, wondering, 'Is this really happening? Is this real?' " she said.
Then one of the masked men stayed near the door and the other went around the counter and started taking money out of the drawer and putting it in his pockets, she said.
"I was looking right at him and then I looked at the clerk, and the clerk raised his hands and said 'Come on man, don't do this.' And not sooner than he said that, I heard a gunshot and as soon as I heard the gunshot, I dropped down to the ground and put my hands over my head and started praying because I thought the guy shot the clerk," she said.
But it wasn't one of the two masked men who shot the gun. It was another man in the back of the store.
Engel didn't know that right away. She thought it was one of the robbers and thought they were "probably going to shoot everybody."
"I just started to pray and I feared for my life," she said. "After that shot it was like three shots, bam, then bam bam. It could have been two, two or three."
She and her friend looked at each other, and then she saw the man who came in behind them standing there. He said to her, "Nobody's gonna point a gun at me and get away with it," and she realized he was the one who shot the gun, she said.
She saw one of the masked men on the floor, dead, and the other behind the counter asking for help and was "shaking in my boots." Then police showed up.
Charges are pending against the man in custody, and the names of the man who died and the one injured have not been released by police.
Norfolk police believe the same men were involved in two other 7-Eleven robberies in their city early Thursday, said spokesman Daniel Hudson in an email.
At the first, around 1 am. at 3235 Chesapeake Blvd., the clerk told police three armed men entered the store and demanded money and the clerk complied. Then at 2 a.m. at 6667 E. Virginia Beach Blvd., two armed men entered the store and demanded money and the clerk there also complied, Hudson wrote. There were no injuries in either incident.
Engel said she's just thankful to get out of the 7-Eleven alive. Right afterward she called her son, a recent Kempsville High School graduate, and went and hugged him.
She said she had been considering getting a concealed carry permit, but thinks she would have been too nervous to use it.
She wants to know who saved them.
"Thank God for that guy because who knows what could have happened," she said. "I want to thank that guy personally. I want to buy him a steak dinner."
Virginia Beach police spokeswoman Tonya Pierce said she could only recall one other local incident where a bystander fired at someone committing a crime. In June 2017, a clerk at a 7-Eleven on Kellam Road shot a robber in the neck. Davin McClenney was left paralyzed by the incident. He pleaded guilty to that robbery and one other earlier this month.
The 7-Eleven clerk in that case was not charged
Why? He did exactly what he was supposed to do, stopped the threat. One dead and one incapacitated is pretty good work.
Three aspiring rappers who love their mothers have had their dreams smashed. So sad...
/sarc
If the gun was legal and he foiled the robbery, he better not be charged. He was doing what the police should have been doing.
On the contrary, he should be hailed as a hero for keeping those two women and the clerk safe, as well as stopping the robbery.
One dead, one injured and another in custody, as well. Three low-life riff-raffs taken off the streets.
I say give him a parade down Main Street.
On-the-spot capital punishment.
BANG! Your dead! Nice....
The other day on another forum someone posted a story about this white people’s prayer for asking forgiveness ...
... and I, never even remotely PC, posted this:
Well, one peom deserves another. I dedicate this to those who burn down black communities numerable decades after the last time a mob of rampaging whites did so anywhere, to those who harm their neighbors (in many cases their own kinfolk) who do no one any harm but now have to face reduced prospects because their jobs may be going away … again.
And yes, I not ashamed of who the apology is to, contrary to how he’s used by modern culture Uncle Tom was a longsuffering innocent whose proverbial heirs, or at least a few of them, have done his literary abuser proud. He was no traitor, but those who run amuck in their own neighborhoods are.
We’re so sorry, Uncle Thomas,
We’re so sorry if we caused you any pain,
We’re so sorry, Uncle Thomas,
But there’s so few fathers left at home and I believe it was a plan.
We’re so sorry but we haven’t learned a thing at all
We’re so sorry, Uncle Thomas
But if anything should happen we’ll be sure to blame whitey.
We’re so sorry, Uncle Thomas,
But we burned down our own neighborhood today.
We’re so sorry, Uncle Thomas,
But the rhetorics on the boil and we’re so easily swept away.
Hands across the hood,
Fists raised to the sky,
Hands across the hood (hood)
Fists raised to the sky!
President Obama notified me,
If he had a boy it would look just like he,
I need no other look for its any excuse for me,
So I ran with it!
Ran with it?
Who needs the truth when there’s a narrative, see?
Hands across the hood,
Fists raised to the sky,
Hands across the hood (hood)
Fists raised to the sky!
Live a little grab a cop’s gun,
Get around (get around),
Try to take him in his car,
Live a little be a star.
Live a little grab a cop’s gun,
Get around (get around),
What you did just doesn’t matter,
With that little we pound the ground.
Hands across the hood,
Fists raised to the sky,
Hands across the hood (hood)
Fists raised to the sky!
And fully justified to boot.
Dindo muffin aspiring rap singers turning their lives around?
We apparently have very different definitions of the word "gentlemen".
No names for the perps but the reporter IDs the gal/witness and where she works. Just stupid and irresponsible.
Once details emerge, I’ll update the thread.
...was giving a friend a ride home when he asked to stop for a Big Gulp. She requested nachos...
2 a.m. nachos and a Big Gulp?
A picture is starting to form. A very BIG picture.
.....”you’re” dead....not “your”....but no one can disagree with your sentiment.....!!...I still cannot figure out what “his gun was legal”.... is supposed to mean....
Thanks for the speed check.
It means it was registered with the Department of Future Gun Confiscation.
“I was standing right next to him at the counter when two
gentlemen — armed, masked, robbers — came in the store....”
Gentlemen...??!! really,lady....??
these pond scum were anything but....!!
I frequently hear police officers refer to
suspects as “gentlemen” also....very odd.....
“The good guy shooter is quoted by another bystander as saying “Nobody’s gonna point a gun at me and get away with it,”
And of course the bystander just couldn’t wait to rat the guy out.
1 Adam 12, see the woman...
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