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Art of the Budget Deal: Trump, Pelosi Agree to Up Spending and Debt
The Daily Signal ^ | July 22, 2019 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 07/23/2019 12:30:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Simply understand that in a few years dollars won’t be worth very much.


21 posted on 07/23/2019 1:22:11 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We will win the house and his re-election.

Until then, the whiney pissants and chicken littles who complain about regretting voting for him can leave. If you regret him, you can leave. Go find one better, bring him back, and show him how to do it.


22 posted on 07/23/2019 1:29:08 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Vote for President Trump in 2020 or end up equally miserable, no rights, and eating zoo animals)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We are not going to solve runaway federal spending by domestic political means.

Only European and Asian governments can enforce domestic spending discipline by limiting dollar-based investments by their laws.


23 posted on 07/23/2019 1:30:22 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: circlecity
reached a deal

Are the words that are destroying the Republic. The GOP has not gotten the better part of a deal in my lifetime.

24 posted on 07/23/2019 1:40:39 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Trump is not a fiscal conservative and didn’t run as one. I’m not sure I understand any frustration.


25 posted on 07/23/2019 1:47:35 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Rurudyne

No one in Washington cares about the deficit - that is a former issue.


26 posted on 07/23/2019 1:49:41 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W
Trump is not a fiscal conservative and didn’t run as one. I’m not sure I understand any frustration.
Me either.

Plus, the American public have made it abundantly clear they WANT big government spending, based on the people they send to Congress.

Want less spending? Send enough fiscal conservatives to Washington to make it possible.

27 posted on 07/23/2019 1:53:52 PM PDT by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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To: Bratch

I voted for Trump to be a ball-breaking china shop bull.
So far, so good.


28 posted on 07/23/2019 1:58:51 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

None of these politicians care too much about limiting spending.


29 posted on 07/23/2019 2:28:39 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Vendome

Agree. Keep appointing judges and getting rid of regulations. He has done so much good.


30 posted on 07/23/2019 2:40:01 PM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: Vendome

I disagree with you that cleaning up the deficit was not part of Trump’s platform. I clearly remember a debate that Chris Wallace moderated.

Trump said he would balance the books. Wallace took Trump to task as to how the books would be balanced at the same time Trump was calling for a big tax decrease.

Trump never answered the question as to how he would clean up the deficit.

Having said all that and based on having the Rats in control of the House and how the GOP looses a lot of the partial government shut downs, I agree with you that Trump had no choice but to take some defence spending and call it a day.


31 posted on 07/23/2019 3:05:04 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Spending money not yet earned by Americans not yet born, consigning them to debt slavery & a lower quality of life.

Bad.


32 posted on 07/23/2019 4:28:08 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Dave W

I wouldn’t dispute that. Indeed, I call the D.C. crowd “Keystone Keynesians” referencing Keystone Cops.

What makes a Keynesian a Keystone Keynesian you ask?

Well, recall that Keynes — falling into the common hubris trap of economics and thinking economies should somehow make sense rather than being what they really are which is a mishmash of whatever people are doing at the moment while idiots in power alternately try to take the credit or shift the blame for it all as if they actually could do more than simply not **** up too badly on the good side — posited that in a properly managed economy the government should spend countercycle to the economy ... spending more in bad times and more in bad.

(Let’s ignore for a moment that appearances can lag actual conditions, and that it can take months or even years for big governments to actually shift spending policies, so really the economists’ proverbial crystal ball is for crap anyway, shall we?)

But a Keystone Keynesian only learned that in bad times spending should increase ... they view good times as an opportunity to increase spending.

Now, “philosophy” is an art where one tries to understand human behavior and despite the delusions to the contrary economics is, like so many other things, a study of what people do, not what little pieces of paper do. So it doesn’t matter how good your math is or how spiffy your ideas are if you absolutely miss how real people in power pandering for votes will abuse your ideas with the result being that they have collectively been a bunch of spendthrift maniacs who’ve long transitioned from pump priming to economic masturbation then your failure as an economist is absolute and your ideas should go on the trash heap of history.

This is NOT something that should have been unpredictable, nor should the effect of the tippy top of bankers living off of the churn as inflation, spurred by ever growing government debt and money creation, robs everyone just trying to live ... that too should be predictable.

And if you’re in office and any shade of so-called “progressive” or what has been called a moderate Republican the chances are you are at best a Keystone Keynesian ... though of course as the Left has reached the point that there’s no extreme Left too far Left for them anymore (which is why it seems as if they consider anyone to the right of McGovern a fascist) they’ve gone beyond that to high grade ideological Stupidity where they can hardly even be more functionally Stupid than they are since they can only threaten life and welfare here on earth.

For further consideration, look up Not So Radical Republicans from Reason magazine, 1998.


33 posted on 07/23/2019 5:12:43 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Dave W

Darn editing!

Spend more in bad / spend more in bad.

Spend less in good times ... but you knew that.


34 posted on 07/23/2019 5:17:42 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Dave W

He has cut regelations to the bone.


35 posted on 07/23/2019 6:04:20 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“I will never sign another bill like this again.” DJT, March 23, 2018

“I am pleased to announce that a deal has been struck with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy - on a two-year Budget and Debt Ceiling, with no poison pills....” DJT July 22, 2019


36 posted on 07/23/2019 6:07:07 PM PDT by oincobx
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To: cowboyusa

Yes, I know. The issue is the national debt, so your comment is a bit misplaced.


37 posted on 07/23/2019 10:12:53 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Reality sucks...not gonna go all squishy and stop supporting the best President ever because he has to deal with reality though...that’s for snowflakes who can’t cope with reality...
Speaking of supporting worthy causes... https://freerepublic.com/donate/


38 posted on 07/24/2019 3:17:33 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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