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Israel education minister defends 'gay conversion therapy'
BBC News ^ | 13th July 2019 | BBC News

Posted on 07/13/2019 5:43:52 PM PDT by Ennis85

Israeli Education Minister Rafi Peretz has said he believes so-called "gay conversion therapy" can work, triggering widespread condemnation.

"I think it's possible," Mr Peretz, an Orthodox rabbi, told Israel's Channel 12 TV channel. He added that he had "a very deep familiarity with the issue".

PM Benjamin Netanyahu said such remarks were "unacceptable". Other politicians and gay groups also voiced criticism.

"Gay conversion therapy" has been widely discredited around the world.

The practice attempts to change an individual's sexual orientation through psychological, spiritual and sometimes physical means.

What did Mr Peretz say?

"I think that it is possible to convert [someone's sexual orientation]," Mr Peretz said on Saturday.

"I can tell you that I have deep familiarity on the issue of education, and I have also done this."

Mr Netanyahu said: "The education minister's remarks regarding the pride community are unacceptable to me and do not reflect the position of the government that I head,"

The prime minister said he had personally spoken to Mr Peretz, a leading member of the ultranationalist United Right alliance, to express his criticism.

Nitzan Horowitz, who leads the left-wing Meretz party, said "gay conversion therapy" was a dangerous practice which causes extremely severe circumstances for youths, including suicide".

Israel's LGBT Task Force, the Aguda, called for the resignation of Mr Peretz.

He described how he had acted when a gay person told him about his sexual inclinations.

"First of all, I embraced him. I said very warm things to him. I told him, 'Let's think. Let's study. And let's contemplate.'

"The objective is first of all for him to know himself well... and then he will decide," Mr Peretz said.

He later attempted to clarify his comments, saying he did not intend that gay children must be sent to "conversion therapy", the Jerusalem Post reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
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1 posted on 07/13/2019 5:43:52 PM PDT by Ennis85
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To: Ennis85

Scientific studies have shown that significant percentage of gay people were molested growing up, far higher than their percentage of the population.

How many of them would have never been gay if not molested?


2 posted on 07/13/2019 5:48:52 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clown World Then You Have Spent Too Much Time At The Circus)
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To: Ennis85

Et tu Netanyahu?


3 posted on 07/13/2019 5:49:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Ennis85

Yeah the conversion only goes one way... from normal to queer. /sarc


4 posted on 07/13/2019 5:50:43 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Ennis85

“Peace be upon Israel!”


5 posted on 07/13/2019 5:53:00 PM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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To: Ennis85

So long as it’s voluntary I have no problem with it and laugh at the hypocrisy of these “pro-science” values these “progressives” claim to have.


6 posted on 07/13/2019 6:16:18 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: Ennis85

Doesn’t he know? You can only convert normal kids to the opposite sex. That’s the only allowable conversion therapy. Good


7 posted on 07/13/2019 6:26:19 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Ennis85

I am of the mind that if gays don’t try to convert me or mine, I don’t try to convert them.


8 posted on 07/13/2019 6:34:57 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Destroying the vestiges of the First Civil War is ensuring the Second.)
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To: Ennis85

Mr Netanyahu said: “The education minister’s remarks regarding the pride community are unacceptable to me and do not reflect the position of the government that I head,”
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God also had some pretty harsh things to say about your ‘pride community’, Ben. Are his remarks unacceptable as well?


9 posted on 07/13/2019 6:36:55 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam stupid!)
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To: Molon Labbie

Agree


10 posted on 07/13/2019 6:46:07 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: P-Marlowe

That is really, very, disappointing.


11 posted on 07/13/2019 6:47:06 PM PDT by Crazieman (Civil war is near certain now.)
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To: Ennis85

It is insane to believe—as all leftists these days do—that it is impossible for people to change sexual orientation even though their sex itself can be switched merely by saying a few magic words.


12 posted on 07/13/2019 6:59:17 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Ennis85

But liberals whole-heartedly support (taxpayer funded) therapy for drug and alcohol abuse which have dismal success rates.

And I think several states have actually made it illegal to treat homosexuals for their illness.


13 posted on 07/13/2019 7:02:34 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: Ennis85

Wow, someone on Earth that makes use of Logic 101 and does Common Sense.... Why couldn’t we allow anyone who asked for and wanted therapy to get it. Maybe he wants to transition to a refrigerator, there should be no LAWS against people wanting to get therapy to help with their issues.


14 posted on 07/13/2019 7:20:55 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Crazieman

I just lost all respect for him. He’s taken the mark.


15 posted on 07/13/2019 8:08:25 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: madprof98

>>It is insane to believe—as all leftists these days do—that it is impossible for people to change sexual orientation even though their sex itself can be switched merely by saying a few magic words.<<

The leftist view is incorrect because there is no such thing as a homosexual identity. There is only behavior. Every day we are rightly judged by other people for our behavior.

What people have a right to demand that others may only view their behavior using the criteria which they specify?


16 posted on 07/13/2019 8:18:53 PM PDT by nagant
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To: Ennis85

I don’t think conversion would be effective but it is better than doing nothing.
It is unscientific to say that the sexual orientation is genetic.
It is purely behavioral and learnt during puberty.


17 posted on 07/13/2019 8:59:29 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Ennis85

Until Mr Peretz is forced to resign, I won’t condemn Netanyahu. You never know if they’re playing the Gaystapo (Hmmm. Hope my meaning is clear).


18 posted on 07/14/2019 12:34:02 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Ennis85

So, a person wakes up and comes to the conclusion he is gay/bi whatever.

If he wants to be straight, he should have access to the whole spectrum of therapies to reach his desired outcome.

Who said the only permitted therapies and treatments are those that transform you from straight/natural/normal to something else???


19 posted on 07/14/2019 4:55:32 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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The scientific evidence continues to show that individuals can and do change behaviours, ideations, and feelings. This is taken as an affront and threat by the “Pride Community.” They hunt down and harass individuals who leave, especially any who speak out.

But what a name to claim -— Pride!

20 posted on 07/14/2019 8:10:10 AM PDT by PsyCon
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