Posted on 07/11/2019 7:50:57 PM PDT by Hostage
I’ll have to disagree with you on this one, I believe the way it is now will produce multitudes more usable data that otherwise would never have been available on the census.
Lets just wait and see what happens with the long held #’s of 11,000,000 - 12,000,000 illegal’s are shown to be pure BS. I wonder how happy the American public will be when President Trump reiterates over and over how they are being cheated of services for their families because of resources being diverted for the invaders.
PS: Trumps going to have all the data from the gov. to make his point.
One unique aspect of realists is their ability to adapt. It's entirely fruitless - as you've undoubtedly experienced - to constantly criticize and point out the obvious. People in denial, who disagree, or believe everything is fine will never listen, and those far, far down the path of understanding don't need the reminders. So, I'm considering a different tack, and present the concept for review: I will post, discuss and engage on topics that highlight the benefits from being on the "winning side". That is, those who make bank on the failure of Trump to actually take positive action to preserve the union. In other words, demonstrating why it pays to leverage off demographics and the coming electoral reality.
So, here it goes:
1. Illegal aliens have large families, thus putting pressure on housing demand and resulting in escalating housing prices;
2. Illegal aliens consume large portions of social services, which are financed by deficit spending. Large deficits require constant (monetary) inflation to depreciate real debt carrying costs.
The ways I profit from Trump's lies:
1. I'm fully invested in CA (coastal) real estate;
2. I'm fully leveraged in real estate related banking, insurance and financial services.
There hasn't been a day my net worth has gone done since Hussein began opening the flood gates 10 years ago. I was willing to consider Trump, and was prepared to divest if I saw any indications of resolve. However, clearly - at least to those willing to be objective - there isn't danger posed from that quarter.
Think about it. Yes, they got their marching orders. Will all the departments heads comply? More importantly, and think about this: how will the department heads get the data that Trump wants. They will rely upon their respective staffs, right? And, how many, or what percentage, of the entrenched federal bureaucracy, do you think support Trump, and what percentage do you think will oppose him? We will see foot dragging, excuses, ignoring orders and anonymous leaking to the mainstream media to throw up barriers.
To order something to get done is not the same as getting it done. Trump is up against the Deep State who have and will continue to resist him every step of the way.
It is the result of a Supreme Court case a decade or so ago and the SC ruled illegals will be included in the Census and included in the House apportionment.
Looks like it can’t. But the census numbers can’t be either.
Other than a updated number (my money is on 50 million) it’s all for not.
We suffered through the Obamination, with the Media fawning over that incompetent POS for 8 years.
We watched DC give Felonia von Pantsuit a complete pass on leaking America's state secrets on her bathroom server, we watched sell access with the Clinton Foundation, obstruct justice in the email investigation and then lead the "Resistance" in its open and notorious sedition.
President Trump has completed our education about the American government and political system. He has revealed most of what is behind the curtain.
If The Derp State attempts to remove Trump in the 2020 election by any means necessary and succeeds, are YOU going to go back to the Uniparty like a Good Little Dog?
Try again
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/31/515.329
Bye
Trump is a winner in great part because he is not afraid to lose. He is the antithesis of a politician and that is why he is so successful.
“Trump loses every time he goes to toe with Dems”
Well, you’re either drunk or not the sharpest knife in the drawer..
Did he lose on the 6 Country Muslim ban?
Did he lose in the Mueller Investigation?
Did he lose on the China or Mexico tariff issues
Did he lose when we quit the Iran deal?
Did he lose when we quit the Climate Accord?
The Democrats were and continue to be against his every move and yet he keeps winning.
We can add a new one to that list as of this afternoon.
9th Circuit rules in favor of Trump admin in ‘sanctuary city’ case
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/452862-9th-circuit-rules-in-favor-of-trump-admin-in-sanctuary-city-case
Are you a lawyer? Because if you are, you should ask for your tuition back or your law student loan to be forgiven.
Unless you’re a liberal which means you have incomplete understanding and therefore specious reasoning ability, you cannot make an argument that an illegal alien has constitutional rights, benefits, and protections.
Illegal aliens are de facto criminals and therefore have no rights. There are voluntary US standards for humane treatment of illegals. There is an understood ‘humane policy’ for such aliens as they are processed for deportation or observed to leave of their own accord. But policy is not law, it is just an agreement on how to conduct human affairs in the moment. Policy can change day to day, hour to hour.
What you’ve done is to mix overly simplistic yet erroneous definitions of ‘illegals’ as ‘persons’ and think you have it all figured out that illegals are beneficiaries of US jurisdiction.
Indeed, illegals are human flesh persons but not ‘persons’ in the US legal sense. The US legal definition of ‘persons’ means an individual, partnership, association, corporation, or other organization followed by ‘subject to the US jurisdiction’. Looking at ‘person’ in isolation of ‘subject to X’ leads to error in law.
You found a definition of ‘person subject to X’ and immediately assumed this definition separates into ‘person’ and ‘X’. This is why it is easy to see you are not a lawyer or not a good one. Because you break off ‘person’ and see that anyone inside the US is a ‘person’. Your logic proceeds that an illegal is a person inside the US, therefore an illegal is a ‘person subject to’. You broke apart the meanings and put them back together in a way you wanted.
JUSTICE BRENNAN delivered an opinion of the Supreme Court:
“Since the late 19th century, the United States has restricted immigration into this country. Unsanctioned entry into the United States is a crime, 8 U.S.C. § 1325 and those who have entered unlawfully are ***subject to deportation***, 8 U.S.C. §§ 1251 1252 (1976 ed. and Supp. IV).”
SCOTUS thus pronounces illegal aliens “SUBJECT TO DEPORTATION”.
That’s the way the law is, it’s an attempt at being a science with all kinds of definitions, theories, corollaries, and case law. It tries to be scientific. The layman such as yourself comes in with an attitude “I know how to do law and stuff” and all you accomplish is to piss off the pros.
So go ahead and pat yourself on the back thinking illegals inside the nation deserve all kinds of benefits and such. When law enforcement arrives, they will look at you thinking you can have your thoughts but their orders are to process that illegal you’re defending, process him/her for DEPORTATION.
And they’re not going to listen a peep about your argument that Milago with the MS-13 tattoos is ‘subject to the jurisdiction of the United States’. They will warn you to stand aside or else.
I think that you are on track to set a record. Most incoherent and erroneous comments on a single thread. Good luck to you, but we need to part company.
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