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Trump Orders Agencies To Share Data On Noncitizens
NPR ^ | July 11, 2019 2 Minutes Ago | Hansi Lo Wang - Square HANSI LO WANG Twitter franco FRANCO ORDOƑEZ Twitter

Posted on 07/11/2019 2:57:09 PM PDT by conservative98

Updated at 5:50 p.m. ET

President Trump announced Thursday he would sign an executive order to obtain data about the U.S. citizenship and non-citizenship status of everyone living in the United States.

In a Rose Garden ceremony, Trump said he would drop efforts to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census. Instead, he'll sign an executive order directing all U.S. agencies to provide the Department of Commerce all information they have on the U.S. citizenship, non-citizenship and immigration status.

"We have great knowledge in many of our agencies," Trump said, flanked by Attorney General William Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross. "We will leave no stone unturned."

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; apportionment; census; immigration; maga; trump; trumpcensus; trumpwinsagain; winning
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To: morphing libertarian

You are “not an expert” but you “know he will lose in court”.

Ok.


61 posted on 07/11/2019 3:57:02 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Maris Crane

My Maris Crane says, “Meow”.

Anyhow, I think Trump should provide a hotline for people to call and report neighbors, co-workers, etc., who most likely are non-citizens and/or are here illegally. Good chance the census questionnaire would be revised quickly.


62 posted on 07/11/2019 3:57:04 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Worry ends where faith begins.)
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To: Sacajaweau

How many illegals do tax returns?


63 posted on 07/11/2019 3:57:41 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: conservative98

Would not the publicity and threat of all this achieve much of the same thing we want. The non citizens are not going to fill out the forms...………………………………………………

Keep it in the news any way possible.


64 posted on 07/11/2019 3:57:58 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ResistorSister

Databases can be used to get an accurate count for the census.

...

That sounds promising.


65 posted on 07/11/2019 3:58:09 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: dwg2
"Juan Williams is a real dumba$$."

Yeah, he always was just that... That's why he was fired from NPR.. Fox hired him just to stick it to the left...

66 posted on 07/11/2019 3:59:18 PM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: odawg

And the apportioning is determined by the number of “persons” not “citizens”.


67 posted on 07/11/2019 3:59:56 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: MMaschin

I don’t get the apportionment thing.

Let’s say for example NY loses two seats. Do we lose those two congressman? Who decides who leaves? How does this whole thing work?


68 posted on 07/11/2019 4:00:35 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Nero Germanicus

The point is to count non-citizens,
and citizens, not illegals per se.
those you mentioned would be
non-citizens of course, who’s
info could be filtered further
to determine who is here illegally.
Many who are here have overstayed
their Visas.


69 posted on 07/11/2019 4:02:11 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: conservative98

BONUS


70 posted on 07/11/2019 4:02:33 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I bet the number is significantly higher than 30 mil.


71 posted on 07/11/2019 4:04:33 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: dynoman

One, the citizenship question has been on the census since our inception as a nation.

Two, the Founders never envisioned that the nation would be so utterly stupid as to allow tens of millions of people to illegally invade the nation and be allowed to stay and counted in the census thereby displacing citizens in Congressional re-apportioning.

Three, maybe you are one that celebrates loss of Congressional representation to the benefit of illegals.


72 posted on 07/11/2019 4:06:44 PM PDT by odawg
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To: morphing libertarian

You need to shut off the job magnet and other magnets that attract illegal entry into this country. You must make it very difficult for an illegal alien to function in this country. When you reward something you get more of it.

We issue about 1.1 million green cards annually. 60% of that number comes from change of status from people already here. Once someone gets here, it is very difficult to remove him. They use various legal routes to get legal status. From an attorney friend who worked in ICE and finally got disgusted and quit, she said the common saying was, “It ain’t over until the illegal alien wins.”

I have been working on the immigration issue for 12 years as part of a grassroots organization that lobbied on the Hill. It has been extremely frustrating as we are constantly on defense trying just to hold off the forces of amnesty. The Dems and RINOs lowball the number of illegal aliens to minimize the impact of an amnesty. They did the same thing in 1986 when the USG estimated 1 million would apply for amnesty and the real number turned out to be 2.7 million. So what if the 11 million estimate turns out to be 30 million? You can kiss this country goodbye. We may already be beyond the point of no return.

I never thought I would see the Speaker of the House counseling illegal aliens how to avoid deportation. She doesn’t even want to deport the million absconders who have gone thru the entire legal process and ordered by the courts to be removed.


73 posted on 07/11/2019 4:07:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Brown Deer
Questions about citizenship were also already allowed on the census.

Are only citizens counted towards representation?

74 posted on 07/11/2019 4:09:43 PM PDT by noexcuses
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To: conservative98

What’s done is done.

Please don’t insult our intelligence.


75 posted on 07/11/2019 4:09:53 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: odawg

Doesn’t matter if the citizenship question is on the census or not if apportioning is by “persons” instead of “citizens”.


76 posted on 07/11/2019 4:10:25 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Many do using TIIN numbers. They get EITC. IRS estimates they pay out $5 billion a year to illegal aliens.


77 posted on 07/11/2019 4:11:16 PM PDT by kabar
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To: MMaschin

Greater detail and more accurate...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwKIDHHQXs8


78 posted on 07/11/2019 4:13:12 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

He can start by directing the IRS/HHS to notify every American whose social security number is being used by an illegal alien on tax returns or welfare checks.


79 posted on 07/11/2019 4:14:36 PM PDT by LVS1
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To: dynoman

How many illegals sign up for food stamps?


80 posted on 07/11/2019 4:15:40 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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