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Census Citizenship Question Is Lose-Lose Issue for Democrats
Townhall.com ^ | July 11, 2019 | Scott Rasmussen

Posted on 07/11/2019 4:47:44 AM PDT by Kaslin

It's not clear if President Donald Trump can win the legal battle to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census, but he's already won in the court of public opinion.

A ScottRasmussen.com poll found that 73% of voters nationwide believe it is appropriate for the U.S. Census Bureau to ask residents whether they are citizens of the United States.

Just because a question might be considered appropriate doesn't mean it should necessarily be asked. But an Economist/YouGov poll found that most Americans (53%) think the citizenship question is one that should be asked by the Census Bureau. Just 32% disagree.

These attitudes make the entire discussion a lose-lose proposition for the Democrats. If the Supreme Court rules against allowing the citizenship question to be asked, Trump will gain a powerful campaign issue to boost his reelection prospects. The importance of Supreme Court nominations will be front and center in the campaign, and the president's supporters will be energized.

On top of that, this topic is closely connected to other issues where Democrats have adopted unpopular positions:

-- The first Democratic debates showed a party perilously close to advocating open borders. Just 21% of voters embrace that position.

-- As Democratic officials assist immigrants crossing the border illegally, 95% of voters believe it's important for everyone entering the country to go through customs and fill out appropriate forms.

-- On the second night of debates, all Democratic presidential candidates signaled support for providing illegal or undocumented immigrants with health care subsidies. Just 26% of voters agree.

The bottom line is that 8 out of 10 voters believe illegal immigration is bad for the United States. Many voters may not be happy with the way Trump is dealing with the border crisis, but they know he sees illegal immigration as a problem. And many have concluded that Democrats don't.

Bad as things will be for Democrats if the citizenship question isn't asked, it could be even worse if it is asked. That's partly because the Democratic nominee would be forced to attack a decision that most Americans support.

But the larger problem for Democrats is that illegal or undocumented immigrants are currently included in the calculations used to award and design congressional districts. If only legal residents were counted, there would be fewer Democrats in Congress. That's because states with high levels of nonlegal residents pick up extra congressional seats at the expense of states with a larger share of legal residents. It also means that urban areas with higher levels of nonlegal residents pick up more seats than they would if only legal residents were counted. Not surprisingly, just 30% of voters think it makes sense to include illegal or undocumented residents when determining representation in Congress. Twice as many -- 62% -- disagree.

If the citizenship question is asked, it will be possible to accurately show the difference between current law and districts drawn on a legal resident-only basis. That is not a discussion the Democrats want to have. In fact, the entire debate about citizenship is something Democrats would love to avoid.

The bottom line is that the more prominent a role this issue plays in 2020 the better things will look for President Trump.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020census; 2020demonrats; 2020issues; rasmussen
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1 posted on 07/11/2019 4:47:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It doesn’t matter what the opinion of the American voters hits. Democrats never rule with the tie they always rule against the will of the people. And then they project verbally what they think we should be relieved and the media plays right along. If the question is not on the census then it helps them rule further against the will of the people.


2 posted on 07/11/2019 4:51:03 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Vote for President Trump in 2020 or end up equally miserable, no rights, and eating zoo animals)
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3 posted on 07/11/2019 4:51:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Those words are tide.

And what the voters will is.


4 posted on 07/11/2019 4:52:38 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Vote for President Trump in 2020 or end up equally miserable, no rights, and eating zoo animals)
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To: Kaslin

There was a poll from yesterday...black and Latino voters, and around 60-percent of each group supported the citizenship question on the Census. Trump might go and delay the start of the Census throughout most of 2020....making it an election year question and really dampening the potential of the Democratic party in House, Senate, and Presidential voting. I think even in California, a majority of legal voters would suggest the question should exist.


5 posted on 07/11/2019 4:56:02 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin
Just as Dem lawyers are advising illegals what to say when they cross the border to get into the US ... those same lawyers will tell the illegals to lie on the census ... "When asked if you are a citizen of the US, say 'yes'" ...

Is it a federal crime to lie on the census? I don't know ... but these are people who have already broken the law ... so breaking another law to remain here and collect the Dem bennies won't be an issue.

6 posted on 07/11/2019 5:02:26 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: Kaslin

One of these days, Democrats are going to pay dearly for defying the public on issue after issue. I hope that day is. Election Day 2020!

A landslide sweep would send thrills up my spine while sending the mass majority of the fake news media into cardiac arrest.

A twofer!


7 posted on 07/11/2019 5:03:21 AM PDT by onyx
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To: dartuser

And we write NO, NOT A CITIZEN.


8 posted on 07/11/2019 5:08:17 AM PDT by onyx
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To: Kaslin

Right now SCOTUS is useless. How can they possibly justify telling the federal government that they cannot ask if a person in this country is a citizen? By twisting words around and a lot of obfuscation. Roberts needs to go.


9 posted on 07/11/2019 5:10:06 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Kaslin

Just heard on the radio that President Trump is signing an EO putting the Citizenship Question on the 2020 Census.


10 posted on 07/11/2019 5:10:57 AM PDT by onyx
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To: jeffc

You need to pay attention. Roberts told the President to strengthen up his legal arguments. Roberts wanted to insure the basis was bed rock strong so it could not be overturned by a future court.

That is in fact happening with the President’s actions

I know, I know........ you are not capable of looking ahead about anything


11 posted on 07/11/2019 5:16:17 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: Kaslin
OKay, so citizenship and illegal immigration are lose-lose for the Democrat party but it is not necessarily a win-win for Republicans. First, they have to get beyond half-a55ed roll-outs of policies, have to do more than talk. Words are important, but actions are what matters. Currently, in my opinion, the Republicans are impotent, full of talk, somewhat like an angry Chihuahua.

And how about bad action, or risk of it? Look at the Anti-American Worker H1B legislation now being walked through Congress. Republican ranks in Congress are filled with RINOs, GOPe, and other losers that hold-back action against illegal aliens, who show their real colors by actually supporting amnesty, and even idiotic programs like increasing H1B and giving them amnesty, green cards, work permits, and paths to citizenship to cheap foreign labor at the very direct expense of American workers. 140 House Republicans and a report 20+ Senate Republicans support this injustice. Sadly, I suspect that if that anti-American worker bill passes, Trump will sign it.

12 posted on 07/11/2019 5:24:32 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Kaslin

My question is one I have not seen addresses anywhere by the media. Why did Obama remove the question from the census form??


13 posted on 07/11/2019 5:41:39 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: onyx

Wow—thanks for posting that good news:)!


14 posted on 07/11/2019 5:48:49 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: bert

And because Roberts wanted to make sure it was done right on this expedited case, so it could easily be included on the 2020 census, he waited until the last day of the Supreme Court’s 2018-19 session to release the decision?


15 posted on 07/11/2019 5:52:04 AM PDT by McGarrett (Book'em Danno)
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To: onyx

That EO is an invitation for a law suit to bring the legally strengthened measure for SCOTUS approval


16 posted on 07/11/2019 5:53:39 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12)There were Democrat espionage operations on Republican candidates)
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To: bert

I disagree with your assessment, about Roberts and about me.


17 posted on 07/11/2019 5:54:18 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jeffc

Right now SCOTUS is useless. How can they possibly justify telling the federal government that they cannot ask if a person in this country is a citizen? By twisting words around and a lot of obfuscation. Roberts needs to go.


Bingo. He’s the ultimate weasel.... Compromised certainly, otherwise how can he come up with his twisted logic and include things that aren’t the essence of the issue.

e.g. Obamacare a tax. Ok to ask question, but can’t include it without going through the kabuki theater of convincing a judge.... Joker supreme


18 posted on 07/11/2019 5:54:23 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Kaslin

Gotta hand it to Trump.
He knows EXACTLY which buttons to push.


19 posted on 07/11/2019 6:43:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: onyx; dartuser

Just about every federal form you will ever see will have this statement

“ l declare under penalty of perjury (under the laws of the United States of America) that the foregoing is true and correct.”


20 posted on 07/11/2019 6:48:46 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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