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The Jeffrey Epstein case is why people believe in Pizzagate
The Week ^ | July 8th, 2019 | Matthew Walter

Posted on 07/09/2019 3:47:59 PM PDT by Eurotwit

The arrest of the apparent billionaire investor Jeffrey Epstein at a New Jersey airport on Saturday on federal charges for crimes he was accused of during the Bush administration should not be surprising to anyone who has followed the news carefully. He may have escaped in 2008 with a ludicrous one-year stint in a county jail that he was allowed to leave six days a week, but his name has never quite been out of the headlines. Between 2008 and 2015 Epstein reportedly settled more than a dozen lawsuits from Jane Does alleging sexual assault; the youngest of his alleged victims was 14 years old.

The only question is why did it take this long? Why was the ludicrous deal that gave Epstein and his fellow conspirators immunity in exchange for a slap-on-the-wrist jail sentence ever allowed to go through in the first place?

The most obvious answer is, of course, that Epstein knows people. Lots of people. A list of his reported friends, business associates, and legal counselors reads like a #MeToo and Manhattan sleazebag All-Star team, with a few stringers pulled in from the media and both political parties: Woody Allen, Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, Mort Zuckerman, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, Ken Starr, Katie Couric, George Stephanopoulos, the current president of the United States. The obscene deal that kept Epstein out of what could easily have been a life sentence in prison was negotiated by Alexander Acosta, the current Secretary of Labor, who was then a federal prosecutor in Florida. In 2002, Graydon Carter, the longtime editor of Vanity Fair, removed references to Epstein's sexual activity from a profile, including testimony from alleged victims, according to the article's author. "He's sensitive about the young women," Carter is said to have explained. Won't somebody please not think of the children?

It will be at least another week before 2,000 or so pages of documents related to Epstein's exploits will be released following the order of an appeals court last week. When we finally see them we will likely be able to answer questions about the identities of the "numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well‐known Prime Minister, and other world leaders" who have also been accused of sexual abuse by Epstein's alleged victims. Is one of them a Razorbacks football fan? Who was the "famous prime minister"? Was Trump speaking from personal experience when he said in 2002 that Epstein "likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side"?

We should keep all of this in mind the next time we feel inclined to sneer at so-called "low-information voters," especially the kookier sort. You know the people I mean. Wackos. Gun nuts. 8channers. Conspiracy theorists in Middle America who watch InfoWars (one of the few journalistic outlets to discuss the issue of pedophilia regularly) and post about QAnon and "spirit cooking" and the lizard people. The news that a globalized cabal of billionaires and politicians and journalists and Hollywood bigwigs might be flying around the world raping teenaged girls will not surprise them in the least because it is what they have long suspected. For the rest of us it is like finding out that the Jersey Devil is real or turning on cable news and finding Anderson Cooper and his panel engaged in a matter-of-fact discussion of Elvis’s residence among the Zixls on the 19th moon of Dazotera.

Among other things, the Epstein case forces us to ask ourselves some uncomfortable questions about the real meaning of "fake" news. There is, or should be, more to being informed than fact-checking formalism. If you have spent the last few years earnestly consuming mainstream left-of-center media in this country you will be under the impression that the United States has fallen under the control of a spray-tanned Mussolini clone who is never more than five minutes away from making birth control illegal. If you watch Fox News and read conservative publications, you no doubt bemoan the fact that Ronald Reagan's heir is being hamstrung by a bunch of avocado toast-eating feminist witches. Meanwhile, Alex Jones's audience will tell you that America, like the rest of the world, is ruled by a depraved internationalist elite whose ultimate allegiance is not to countries or political parties or ideologies but to one another. These people believe in nothing. They will safeguard their wealth and privilege at any cost. They will never break rank. And they will commit unspeakable crimes with impunity, while anyone who dares to speculate openly is sued or hounded out of public life as a kook.

Which of these worldviews is closest to the truth?


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clintonepstein; creepyartcollection; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; grooming; jepstein; jepsteincase; metoo; pizza; pizzagate; podesta; sexualizingchildren; smokinggun; trump
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To: Eurotwit

He mentions Anderson Cooper.

Cooper was a student at the Dalton school where Epstein taught.

Cooper was too young to have been Epstein’s student.

“Also appealing to Hoffenberg were Epstein’s social connections; they included oil mogul Cece Wang (father of the designer Vera) and Mohan Murjani, whose clothing company grew into Gloria Vanderbilt Jeans.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303

Cooper’s mom is Gloria Vanderbilt.

Weird fact. William Barr’s father hired Epstein to teach at this school.


21 posted on 07/09/2019 4:13:12 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Eurotwit; All

22 posted on 07/09/2019 4:15:55 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....ew)
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To: Eurotwit

Thin crust or original pan?


23 posted on 07/09/2019 4:16:42 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Eurotwit

“Which of these worldviews is closest to the truth?”

The Alex Jones audience view, of course!

The rest of you naive, heads in the sand deniers are finally realizing that yes, these “impossible” things might just be true. That sometimes (many times) these “conspiracy theories” are actually true!

Just because it is hard to believe doesn’t mean it can’t happen.

Pizza gate is REAL! Just disprove ONE assertion by “someone” and all the rest of it HAS TO BE FALSE, right? WRONG!

“I never had sex, with those under age girls, on the Lolita Express. Not once (but 27 times). I never told anyone to lie, not one time, (but many many times)”

Mr Clinton, is there any truth to these salacious allegations?

” That depends on what your meaning of “is” is.”


24 posted on 07/09/2019 4:17:11 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: KitJ

You can’t ask about the Standard Hotel anymore. Anyone who knew about it is dead...

Tragically, of course...


25 posted on 07/09/2019 4:18:38 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....ew)
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To: tcrlaf

what is the Standard Hotel story?


26 posted on 07/09/2019 4:19:22 PM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: rintintin

Is Roberts tied into this mess?


27 posted on 07/09/2019 4:25:55 PM PDT by cnsmom (G)
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To: Eurotwit; TigerClaws
Pizzagate is real.

The Deep State, the globalist, the elite rapists, and their bought and paid for media shills came up with the smear that "kooks believed there was a basement bunker" - but that notion was based on something very real, and very sinister.

James Alefantis, Comet Pizza owner and the homosexual ex-boyfriend of Media Matters and Soros slaveboy David Brock, had an Instagram account that should have gotten him arrested.

These are just some of the pictures:



This Instagram photo is what the "basement" subject refers to (see the responses from the other pedos):

When certain real journalists (like David Seaman) started to look very hard at Pizzagate, lo and behold! - some "wacko" suddenly broke into Comet Pizza with a "deadly assault rifle" and said he was "looking for the dungeon."

How convenient!

To this day, I am convinced that "gunman" was a plant whose sole purpose was throw the public off the Pizzagate Pedo scandal and to discredit those who were too close to the truth. The "gunman" will be out of prison soon, and I am sure he was very, very well compensated.

28 posted on 07/09/2019 4:26:08 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

I agree entirely.


29 posted on 07/09/2019 4:29:47 PM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: humblegunner

I’m not a Q believer ... I think Q is nonsense really ... its a person or people that use the power of hindsight to convince others that they’re an oracle of sorts.

I do think there is something to Pizzagate though ... not so much the elaborate lairs and other stuff (though it wouldn’t surprise me), but the trafficking of kids for powermongers to abuse.

Child molestation among elites is as old as time. Some of these people have it all and look to take their perversions to the next level. We see it in the Catholic Church and Hollywood. You can’t tell me that a bunch of DC elites are not into this disgusting practice. Lots of the leaked Podesta emails are full of innuendo used by those that engage in that practice.

Many rumors start out based on facts. People will always add their own crap to a rumor (i.e. underground lairs and the like), but I will not be stunned if news brakes about a sex cult that has been abusing kids for a long time. I will be enraged and will be out to see the people involved hanged, but I won’t be stunned.

Do you think people would have believed NVXIM existed? I wouldn’t have before recent news. “Pizzagate” is not unlike NVXIM, and NVXIM is as real as anything out there.


30 posted on 07/09/2019 4:30:13 PM PDT by edh
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To: TigerClaws

From what limited information I have gleaned, it seems clear that as soon as the “conspiracy theorists” find themselves over a target, then you get a flood of fake conspiracy theorists muddying the waters with outlandish claims. Then the mainstream media can point to the outlandish claims, and then claim the conspiracy theory has been “debunked”.


31 posted on 07/09/2019 4:31:11 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Reily

“What’s “Lizard people”?”

New York bankers?


32 posted on 07/09/2019 4:32:00 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Reily
What’s “Lizard people”?
Jim Morrison fans?
33 posted on 07/09/2019 4:33:19 PM PDT by jimmango
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To: Rennes Templar

“The Deep State take care of their own.”

There’s something more going on here. I think Epstein may be involved with some foreign intelligence service. Of course, I think the CIA is an foreign intelligence service.


34 posted on 07/09/2019 4:34:34 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: a fool in paradise

“Paranoid prick who wrote this thinks Handmaid’s Tale is fact.”

I kind of liked The Handmaid’s Tale.


35 posted on 07/09/2019 4:36:04 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: humblegunner
“Whatever brings you joy, though...”

StumbleBummer, If you meant that you’d not have gone out of your way to cast innuendo at the poster in the first place.

36 posted on 07/09/2019 4:36:19 PM PDT by coaster123 (Trump fights for you. Fight for him.)
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To: Eurotwit

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37 posted on 07/09/2019 4:37:53 PM PDT by upchuck (No muzzy is fit to hold public office - their cult (religion) is incompatible with the Constitution.)
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To: coaster123

STFU, N00b.


38 posted on 07/09/2019 4:40:59 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Pizzagate is real as rain HG


39 posted on 07/09/2019 4:43:14 PM PDT by advertising guy (When Pelosi said " Embrace the suck" Kamala did ...... Willie Brown)
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To: Eurotwit
"The only question is why did it take this long? "

Donald Trump knew he was into younger women back in 2002

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
40 posted on 07/09/2019 4:45:49 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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