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1 posted on 06/30/2019 2:23:15 AM PDT by grundle
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Excellent minority doctors are stained by the existence of affirmative action doctors. White, male doctors are admitted on the basis of merit only and should be strongly preferred absent other data.


2 posted on 06/30/2019 2:36:05 AM PDT by wizwor
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When/why/how did it become so acceptable to blatantly, legally (in most cases) and routinely discriminate ...”

That would be 1970. Yep almost 50 years ago. It was done first in the the case of women who, having been given a shot at entrance to all male schools were not getting in at the levels the femininsts thought proper. The entrance standards were at that point lowered.


3 posted on 06/30/2019 2:40:20 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitch!)
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But...


4 posted on 06/30/2019 2:51:46 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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And overall medical care will decline.

JoMa


7 posted on 06/30/2019 3:26:25 AM PDT by joma89
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This changes nothing for minorities because the smart patient will choose an Asian or a White doctor. When your life is on the line, no one wants to be the canary in the coal mine.

I wouldn't even consider choosing a black doctor because I would have doubts about their qualifications. Did they get into medical school because of brains and talent, or because of the color of their skin? I don't want to be the guinea pig who finds out the hard way.

Effectively this shifts the burden of screening for qualifications from the medical school to the consumer. A smart person playing the odds is compelled to disqualify the black doctor, fairly or unfairly as that may be.
 

8 posted on 06/30/2019 3:29:00 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (September 11, 2001 : Never forget, never forgive.)
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This will result in discrimination against selecting black doctors by anyone else.


9 posted on 06/30/2019 3:29:52 AM PDT by Truth29
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LOL! Soon the medical care in Cuba WILL be better than in the USA!


10 posted on 06/30/2019 3:46:01 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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I am an alumnus of my state medical school. I paid state taxes all my life; so did my father; my grandfather did most of his life. My daughter moved to another state. Despite excellent grades and credentials, her application to the medical school of which I am an alumnus was rejected, because she was no longer a state resident. Meanwhile, a young man of Korean origins, an immigrant himself, was accepted. He had worked for me and was one of the dumbest people ever to do so. I shiver when I think what kind of medicine he's practicing.

When my alma mater medical school comes to me asking for money, guess what my reaction is!

13 posted on 06/30/2019 4:14:42 AM PDT by Savage Beast (When the Light of Truth threatens to expose corruption, it's the corrupt who try to extinguish it.)
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Remember the Baake case?


14 posted on 06/30/2019 4:18:33 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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It’s not just medical schools. Veterinary Colleges have been doing the same thing for years, often taking almost exclusively female applicants. This is the main reason why the veterinary profession is nearly at the point, where it’s *exclusively* female these days.

The Ontario Veterinary College for example, has an entry class of 100 every year, and for over 25 years has *NEVER* allowed more than 4-5 males in per cohort.


15 posted on 06/30/2019 4:30:02 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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There were quotas written into the ACA’s original drafts. I’m not sure if they made it into the final draft.


16 posted on 06/30/2019 4:34:43 AM PDT by raybbr (The left is a poison on society. There is no antidote. Running its course will be painful. You)
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Wow. Tell me again why Asians are considered a primarily Democrat constituency.


17 posted on 06/30/2019 5:00:26 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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A few things from the article:

1) Why did anyone ever do this study?
2) Why did they release the results, once they knew just how skewed things are?
3) Perhaps surveys like this are the REAL REASON that the Democrats so desperately wants government to take over health care. In other words, as people understand our two-tier system in medicine, it will become harder and harder for black doctors to find patients...so easy solution - force people to use them.


20 posted on 06/30/2019 5:24:32 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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Affirmative action in doctors, surgeons, EMT personnel and airline pilots inevitably leads to deaths.
Once they are admitted in college, they have to be passed and given a diploma or the college will be called racist, so we have a whole crop of dangerous incompetents.


21 posted on 06/30/2019 5:25:14 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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According to the left, advocating that hiring and admissions be based on “qualifications” and “meritocracy” are racist.


27 posted on 06/30/2019 6:02:00 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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“Based on national data, is there any conclusion other than the obvious one – that US medical schools are granting special preferences for admissions on the basis of race for certain preferred minority groups (blacks and Hispanics) over other non-preferred minority groups (Asians) and whites?”

A plausible alternate conclusion is economic diversity. I personally know several doctors whose fathers are/were doctors and whose children are doctors. They all went to expensive and highly regarded preparatory schools and colleges, vacationed and studied abroad, had private tutors, were born with a silver spoon, and raised to become doctors at an early age. Given a choice between two people with equal or near equal qualifications, one who was raised in a stable family has the best education and economic advantages that money can buy and the other who was raised in a housing project by a single parent or grandparent and is a victim of an inner-city, violent, drug infested, government run school, I see nothing wrong with giving a preference to the latter over the former.

FYI: The biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action are not ethnic minorities, but alumni legacies from well-connected families such as Bush, Kennedy, and Roosevelt.


28 posted on 06/30/2019 6:28:13 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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This has been goi g on while. You can choose your routine doctor.. but you are stuck eith skin color over quality in the most critical care scenarios.


29 posted on 06/30/2019 6:43:48 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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Affirmative discrimination indeed


30 posted on 06/30/2019 6:49:36 AM PDT by Crucial
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Besides, being an excellent doctor, our primary care doctor is a Scot/Irish guy in his mid 40’s.

In spite of the reverse racism, he had to endure at premed, med school, and family practice residency for 3 years in Californicator land, he survived all that bs to become an excellent doctor.


31 posted on 06/30/2019 6:59:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (KAG! Keep America Great! Vote for President Trump in 2020! KAG! Keep America Great!)
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America has already lost a generation or two of some of the most qualified Med School candidates to this quota profiling crap.

This nonsense started in the 70's and I personally am aware of a dozen white guys and gals who were honors grads, who were not accepted since the 90's.

33 posted on 06/30/2019 7:48:00 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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